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    Perhaps AT&T should sue themselves for having shitty service!



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    Quote Originally Posted by paymentd View Post
    It seems the best part of this whole thing is that people are forgetting that AT&T was already revved up about losing their roaming agreements with their largest GSM roaming partner in rural America, Alltel Wireless...

    Hence the reason why VZW could post their new controversial 3G coverage map... AT&T really doesn't have the coverage after losing their roaming agreements.

    AT&T is pissed, because their coverage is SHRINKING. lol.
    Alltel was a CDMA carrier not GSM

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    GSM Coverage Maps | United States | Alltel Communications Inc | Network Information

    GSM Coverage Maps | USA | Alltel Communications Inc | Coverage Map

    GSM Coverage Maps | United States | Alltel Communications Inc | Roaming Partners

    i beleive alltel was both as you can see they where and are listed as a gsm provider as well



    EDIT i know this isnt about alltel but verizon did buy them


    but i know alltel did provide GSM network

    EDIT 2
    doing more digging alltel started as gsm and switch to cdma over time or so i have been reading anyways who cares


    ATT wont be wining this
    Last edited by newberry; 11-07-2009 at 08:12 AM.



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    Quote Originally Posted by newberry View Post
    GSM Coverage Maps | United States | Alltel Communications Inc | Network Information

    GSM Coverage Maps | USA | Alltel Communications Inc | Coverage Map

    GSM Coverage Maps | United States | Alltel Communications Inc | Roaming Partners

    i beleive alltel was both as you can see they where and are listed as a gsm provider as well



    EDIT i know this isnt about alltel but verizon did buy them


    but i know alltel did provide GSM network

    EDIT 2
    doing more digging alltel started as gsm and switch to cdma over time or so i have been reading anyways who cares


    ATT wont be wining this
    Your second edit is correct sir lol yea alltel started out as GSM I thought/believe they sold off their gsm towers that they didnt revamp as CDMA, but dont quote me on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paymentd View Post
    3G Speed ? CDMA vs GSM

    Typical Average Speed - bps
    CDMA Up Link Down Link
    EVDO-A 450-850K 300-400K
    EVDO-0 300-500K 60- 90K
    1xRTT 60- 90K 60- 90K

    GSM
    HDSPA 500-800K 200-300K
    UMTS 220-320K 220-320K
    EDGE 70- 90K 50- 60K
    GRPS 30- 50K 30- 50K

    Theoretical Max Speed - bps
    CDMA Up Link Down Link
    EVDO-A 3.1M 1.8M
    EVDO-0 2.4M 154K
    1xRTT 154K 154K

    GSM
    HDSPA 1.8M 384K
    UMTS 384K 384K
    EDGE 236K 118K
    GRPS 76K 76K

    ...I don't know, it seems like CDMA is the way of the future.
    I don't know. I don't keep up on a lot of this stuff. All I know is that using 3G on my AT&T phones was much faster than what I get now on Verizon. Not that Verizon is terrible, AT&T was just faster, that's all. I didn't mean to cause any heated debate on the subject, I was just saying that I wondered when debate on these commercials would come up. As I stated before, yes it's true that AT&T does NOT have 3G in the white areas, but they do have EDGE, which in my experience, is equivalent to Verizon 3G speeds.



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    edge is terrible if u like crappy speed then good for you

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    Appears, this topic is turning into heated discussion

    Everyone, please stay respectful and no bashing....just a final friendly reminder...but on a serious note

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    Okay, Alltel actually started as a landline company... LOL.

    They started their wireless division and eventually branched off. Way back when they started there wasn't GSM or CDMA... they were always a CDMA carrier, but installed GSM functionality on their towers, because it made great business sense. Alltel didn't make their money off their customer base. They made their money off the carriers paying roaming fees (The biggest reason why VZW wanted them). Alltel actually had a great GSM network throughout rural America and this is why AT&T is soooo upset, and another reason why everyone keeps reading about "divested markets."

    Alltel built out their towers to support both CDMA and GSM networks... great idea, right?

    Either way, the network started analog... then TDMA, then CDMA/GSM (which is actually the same technologies just configured a little bit differently on how the packets are transferred over the air). CDMA is actually a safer, more efficiently ran network, but GSM was a better early solution for data and voice combinations.

    Either way, AT&T is losing ground, because VZW cut them out from under by buying the network they relied on.... the same network everyone relied on, ha.

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