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    ^^^that last part literally made me LOL



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    Quote Originally Posted by jnepsa View Post
    you mean MAP for that :laugh2:



    The map VZW uses for VZW 3g is only their coverage none of their 'patners', and the same goes with the AT&T map.. they are using the same base for either one so it seems pointless to me.
    Hopefully the judge or whoever hears this case will understand that the commercial is comparing apples to apples; 3G service and not service as a whole and toss AT&T and their lawyers out on their asses along with this frivolous lawsuit. If they'd fix their crappy network Verizon wouldn't be able to pick on them about it.

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    Folks I know carriers can be a hott topic.. but lets try to keep the level of attitude to a small amount here.. No need to get rude with each other



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    watches the commercial again, man i loved the first time i seen it on tv

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldwinger View Post
    Since I won't do business with AT&T for other reasons, I'll take what you say as true since I don't have anything that would tell me different, HOWEVER, your post makes me want to ask this question, why are you on Verizon if you think AT&T is so great? I see you have a Storm and just wanted to know why you support AT&T with your words but not your money. just curious and please don't tell me it just for the phone because the first Storm and OS 4.7.0.68 would make anyone run to a Bold if they had the choice.

    It just seems funny that AT&T is not claiming that it's not TRUE, just that it's misleading. So I have to ask the question, does AT&T have 3G in the white spaces that Verizon shows on the map or not?

    Is Verizon being snarky with this add, well of course they are, but are they misleading anyone about 3G coverage, I don't think so, but if there are folks out there that think this means that AT&T doesn't have cell phone coverage in those areas, well then maybe those type folks shouldn't have a cell phone to begin with, they probably think you can take a nap with the car on cruse control. :laugh2:
    I'm not saying AT&T is so great, or that it's better than Verizon. Just stating my opinion of the difference in 3G speeds. AT&T does not have 3G coverage in the white areas on the map, but DOES have EDGE, which is just as fast as Verizon's 3G (GSM 3G is much faster than CDMA 3G). So AT&T's 3G is quite a bit faster, just not nearly as much coverage (as shown by the map). And yes, a big part of the reason why I'm with Verizon is because of the Storm (among other things). I had a couple iPhones with AT&T, but got frustrated with the fact that the phone is so locked down. Apple is waaayyy too strict on their permissions and what you can and CAN'T do with their phone. I've always been a BB fan. And yes, the Storm did suck when I first got it, but the hybrids on this site made it much more bearable, plus the freedom to actually be able to PUT these hybrids on, and do as I choose with my phone ...unlike Apple. I apologize if it sounded like I was bashing Verizon. Like I said, just stating my opinion on the 3G thing.



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    If we are talking about AT&T 3G speeds, AT&T does not have the fastest 3G speeds as far carriers go. Over at BGR, they had their users give them speed data and if I remember correctly, AT&T came in 3rd. Sprint was 1st and TMO came in 2nd.

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    It seems the best part of this whole thing is that people are forgetting that AT&T was already revved up about losing their roaming agreements with their largest GSM roaming partner in rural America, Alltel Wireless...

    Hence the reason why VZW could post their new controversial 3G coverage map... AT&T really doesn't have the coverage after losing their roaming agreements.

    AT&T is pissed, because their coverage is SHRINKING. lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpking View Post
    I'm not saying AT&T is so great, or that it's better than Verizon. Just stating my opinion of the difference in 3G speeds. AT&T does not have 3G coverage in the white areas on the map, but DOES have EDGE, which is just as fast as Verizon's 3G (GSM 3G is much faster than CDMA 3G). So AT&T's 3G is quite a bit faster, just not nearly as much coverage (as shown by the map). And yes, a big part of the reason why I'm with Verizon is because of the Storm (among other things). I had a couple iPhones with AT&T, but got frustrated with the fact that the phone is so locked down. Apple is waaayyy too strict on their permissions and what you can and CAN'T do with their phone. I've always been a BB fan. And yes, the Storm did suck when I first got it, but the hybrids on this site made it much more bearable, plus the freedom to actually be able to PUT these hybrids on, and do as I choose with my phone ...unlike Apple. I apologize if it sounded like I was bashing Verizon. Like I said, just stating my opinion on the 3G thing.
    3G Speed ? CDMA vs GSM

    Typical Average Speed - bps
    CDMA Up Link Down Link
    EVDO-A 450-850K 300-400K
    EVDO-0 300-500K 60- 90K
    1xRTT 60- 90K 60- 90K

    GSM
    HDSPA 500-800K 200-300K
    UMTS 220-320K 220-320K
    EDGE 70- 90K 50- 60K
    GRPS 30- 50K 30- 50K

    Theoretical Max Speed - bps
    CDMA Up Link Down Link
    EVDO-A 3.1M 1.8M
    EVDO-0 2.4M 154K
    1xRTT 154K 154K

    GSM
    HDSPA 1.8M 384K
    UMTS 384K 384K
    EDGE 236K 118K
    GRPS 76K 76K

    ...I don't know, it seems like CDMA is the way of the future.

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