Hey olta777 thanks for your help the other day. What i did was wipe my BB for the 3rd time in one day, and just followed your advice to re-download all 3rd party and i haven't done a 3rd party backup yet. Just wanted to know should i delete all older backups and OS from my pc? I will keep the last backup i did and keep my bbc v7 .148. I don't know but maybe the other OS's and backup somehow interfered, i did find it weird that i did not find a backup for 6/5/2009 but did have one for 5/31/2009. Anyways thanks again. Please don't be offended, i just found out today that you are a female. Which is great to know. Thank you so much for your help.