Thread: Crackmans v6 Hybrid Findings and Fixes

Please post all your findings and fixes here.

"Official V6 Final Report"
bbcrackman's absolute best release yet! V6 Rocks!


Implementations, New Features, Positive / Negative Findings, Ongoing / Addressed Issues and Improvements will be addressed in Color Coded Format.


Blue Text will = Positives, New Features, & Improvements

Green Text Will = Acutely Noticable Changes

Red Text will = Negatives & Ongoing Issues.



"Device Type(s) tested on"
9530

"Base Software Version & Platform Utilized"
4.7.0.148

"Reason for chosen base version"
Polls currently show the majority are in favor the 4.7.0.148 platform

"Hybrid Version Tested (BBCrackman v6 Hybrid vs BBCrackman v6-90"
Hybrid V6

"Reason for chosen base version"
V6 was selected as choice for testing purposes over the V6-90 due to the vast number of issues surrounding the .90 radio.
Some devices did not perform well on 4.7.0.90 I would not recommend loading this unless you absolutely want to. While some may experience no reboots at all. Others may follow an alternate course of undesirable reboots, system lockup's, and occasional VSOD. It still has the same effect on devices as did straight .90.

"Allocated Time Tested"
Testing from day one of general release on a fully charged original battery till end of the battery cycle.

"Color Saturation"
Color improvement is definately there and it is noticable. While color banding is still present you cannot see the vast lineage as before between the transitional phases as in previous releases. Color saturation is a Major improvement showing better visibility and better color flow. Images are more Clearer and Brighter. Color depth seems at it's highest that I have seen compared to any other releases yet.

"Color Banding"
Still Present
However:
Colors are more vivid in detail and crisp in texture. Color banding is hardly noticable. Huge improvement over any other release out.

"Battery Life"
Under typical use; making regular calls, watching a movie, listening to music, web, and sms; Battery life has been DRASTICALLY INCREASED. I don't how it was done but the battery in all three units are still running STRONG. Have not had to charge yet. This would be one of the best noticable changes I have seen to date. Everybody needs battery life improvement, and if so then this looks like the one.

"Lockup's / Freezes / VSOD"
None! Running strong and smooth

"Application Intergration"
ALL of my 3rd Party apps work perfectly. Storm Slider, Quickpull, StopTilt, BofA, File Manager Pro, Forward w/Edit, PDF to Go, Forward w/Edit, Shazam, Kenny Powers, BBOS Launcher, Memory Manager, Battery Booster, Premium Doc to Go, Quicklaunch 1.5 and 2, Visual Voice Mail.

"Camera and Video"
Camera Speed has increased noticably. It is faster and works every time. 50 photos taken and no issues. 10 Videos taken and no issues. No reboots on camera usage or video usage. Playback was smooth and transitional.

"BES"
I am on BES with my company and it works flawlessly and punctually. Emails come in wuick and decisive as they should. This is how BES should have always been from the begining.

"Using DM 4.7 and 5.0"
I can do my back-up's with DM 4.7 and 5.0 with no issues. Tested with two seperate units for more accurate testing.

"Music Multimedia"
Played a variety of mp3's and had no problems at all. Music played back flawlessly!

"Video Multimedia"
Played several short video clips and 1 movie. Very clear color depth. Color saturation is definately better. Colors are more crisp!

"Phone Speed"
Phone speed is much improved. Even with several apps running and several emails going at the same time the phone was extremely fast and responsive. This is a HUGE improvement over the prior releases!

"Loading from Card"
All of my pics and vids loaded and were picked up perfectly from my 16 gb card.

"Typing"
ABSOLUTELY NO LAG AT ALL!!!!! I sent many SMS and emails and even while browsing the web had no lag on any of the testing phases. This is a MAJOR improvement.

"Radio"
ABSOLUTELY NOTICABLE IMPROVEMENT. The radio is the best out yet. I did not experience any lost or dropped calls. Not one Kb of data loss. Sound is MUCH clearer and louder. HOLDING STRONG at 4-5 bars all day long. I usually only get 3-4 bars at the same exact locations but not now. Just for this alone I will never change!

"Accelerometer"
CRAZY FAST! Ok seriously, this is the fastest one out yet. NO Lag! changes when it should and not when you would least expect it to.

"Visual Voice Mail"
Well if you use it, it does work perfectly.

"Browser Speed"
Dont even ask... It's LIGHTNING FAST. Don't let others tell you how fast their browsers are. This one will pass it by far. The fastest browser compared to others. Loaeds .096 seconds faster. Now dont say that .096 is not a long time cause when you are sitting at that redlight for only 1 minute waiting for the light to change that one minute seems like 5. YES it is MUCH FASTER!!!!!

"Memory"
54MB at start up vs 51MB before. Now keep in mind, this is BEFORE I loaded all of my third apps. With all of the apps listed above running I am holding strong at 43MB. No Loss So Far.

"Battery Pulls"
Do 3 battery pulls on set up of new hybris 60 seconds apart as instructed. how many battery pulls have I had so far now: 0. That's right, 0 battery pulls to date.

"QuickPull"
Works Perfectly!!!

"The Final Analysis"

This is absolutely the best built hybrid to date. It is not just my opinion but the results show it. Tested on three storms and all three running strong. bbcrackman's V6 needs no improvement as he has passed the bar of our expectations and led by example. While again I would highly remind you not use the .90 radio unless you are just looking for completely getting rid of the color banding. This V6 does not needs too much more in my opinion. Color, Video, Radio, Speed, Browsing.... It's All There.

All I can say is a BIG Thanks to bbcrackman for this build and thanks to the BBOS team for having it here FIRST!!!!!!



The.Perfect.Storm

what's v6 1 and v6 2? which one is .148?

Originally Posted by smcoldbb

what's v6 1 and v6 2? which one is .148?

those are different mirrors for the downloads, if it says just "v6" then it has .148 sfi and if it is "v6-90" uses the .90 sfi

What should the OS say it is using so I know I did this right?

Originally Posted by pabase2

What should the OS say it is using so I know I did this right?

v6-90: 4.7.0.148(4.0.0.114)
v6(.148): 4.7.0.148(4.0.0.181)

v6 Hybrid over Lyrical's 5.0 148 hybrid.

I forgot to say thanks to everyone. You guys have made my phone more enjoyable and reliable than I had hoped. Needless to say, when it was first released I was disappointed in the performance. But I have grown to love it... Can't say thanks enough...Did I say thanks?

So far, so good. Seems to run really solid. I'll report back tomorrow at some point!

I tried .148 Hybrid V6 .90 for 24 hours, but to many (3) freeze up and bugs with that radio. I liked the bigger font on the keys, but the freeze (lock) ups are a deal breaker for me. I use my Storm 15 hours a day and any hang ups kill my business.

So far coming from straight .148 and .141 V5.1 before that.

I am 48 hours in and here are my results so far using bbcrackman's .148 Base with Hybrid 6:


--Color is fine
--Battery Life is UNBELIEVABLY LONGER!
--Browser is Lightening fast!
--No freeze ups
--ALL of my 3rd Party apps work. Quickpull, StopTilt, Beyond 160, Storm Slider, BofA, File Manager Pro, Forward w/Edit, PDF to Go, Premium Doc to Go, Quicklaunch 1.5 and 2, Visual Voice Mail, Forward w/Edit, Shazam, Kenny Powers, BBOS Launcher, Memory Manager and Battery Booster
--Camera Speed faster and works every-time (I took 23 photos no issues)
--I am on BES with my company and it works flawlessly
--I can do a back up with DM 5.0 and no issues
--Video works with no hang ups. I did 3 videos today
--Music worked flawlessly with no problems
--The speed of the phone is very impressive
--Pictures and Music load faster in Media from my 16GB card
--Typing with ZERO lag
--Radio is holding at 4-5 bars of 1EXEV (3G). Normally at 2-3 bars in my office) Any improvement is great!
--Accelerometer is very quick. Even with themes!
--Visual Voice Mail works perfect
--53MB at start up vs 52MB before
--Battery Pull seems to load faster than before
--Memory starts at 53MB and 24 hours later I am at 43MB. I can live with that
--QuickPull 2.0 works perfectly
--FLICK SCROLLING!!--kidding..sorry
(I have done 3-60 second pulls as recommended by the BBOS team)


I had a bug with StopTilt in my Address Book (Contacts) that is fixed with this Hybrid vs straight .148. Whenever I would start to type in the "Find" section to look up an address, the keyboard would not come up. No problems with this OS.

I am VERY HAPPY with this Hybrid V6 with .148 Radio!!

Best OS hands down for my Storm

My phone did not like the .90 radio.

Thank you and Lyricidal for your hybrids. Without them I'd feel like a first generation iphone user. Much appreciated. Now one finding. I don't know if my bb had a stroke or something but I did a batter pull after downloading (like 20 min ago) and I booted at 45. something. I'm now around 35. something. Not complaining yet. Just posting a finding. Going to try another battery pull.

Originally Posted by raptor6977

Thank you and Lyricidal for your hybrids. Without them I'd feel like a first generation iphone user. Much appreciated. Now one finding. I don't know if my bb had a stroke or something but I did a batter pull after downloading (like 20 min ago) and I booted at 45. something. I'm now around 35. something. Not complaining yet. Just posting a finding. Going to try another battery pull.

We recommend 3, 60 second battery pulls. This will completely refresh your device. I would go that route. It also depends on what you have running on your device.

Thank you for the compliment!

Thank you very much. I appreciate the info

How many 5.0.0.93/90 files are incorpperated in V6 Build? Is it browser only? Just curious.

Originally Posted by REC7IFY

How many 5.0.0.93/90 files are incorpperated in V6 Build? Is it browser only? Just curious.

I made a rough count and there are more than 100 files from 5.0. Since the browser only accounts for about 20 of those it is more than just the browser.

Originally Posted by jlevy73

I made a rough count and there are more than 100 files from 5.0. Since the browser only accounts for about 20 of those it is more than just the browser.

Huh, GPS? BB Messanger? Thats a ton of 5.0 up in the mix! :firedevil:

Originally Posted by REC7IFY

Huh, GPS? BB Messanger? Thats a ton of 5.0 up in the mix! :firedevil:

Yep it sure is. I am not at my computer where the files are but you can easily check by looking at the modules associated with the system software and core apps

Had my first crash & reboot using 148 v6 while taking a picture. Only other app running was gmail. I'm trying to re-produce it, but the camera just felt lagged and then it dropped. We'll see if I can make it do it again or not.

Personal Testing of particular COD interest, involve
net_rim_tid_addrbookrep (Core Application) ?.148 or 5.0.0.93
net_rim_bb_call_control (system software) ?.148 or 5.0.0.93
net_rim_softtokens_options.cod ?.148 or 5.0.0.93

These three combined have for me:
Improved and stable radio/data signal in historically lower radio signal reception areas.
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The intent of this post is to inform everyone what are the differences and similar aspects of both builds of hybrids so anyone can make an informed choice on what they can choose to do with their own phone. It is clear that each "hybrid" has been compared and contrasted by each builder, and to each their own. Both L and BB have worked really hard on their hybrids and definitely should be thanked.

I hope everyone understands that anyone could pull this information up by just downloading each and taking time to look at the details. I hope this post could help communication and collaboration to continue between hybrids and the overall improvement of the storm 0s.

We all just want to enjoy our phones and thanks to L and BB, we are! Thanks.

Compiled by jwacton on 5/28/2009

BBcrackman v6 compared Lyricdal 148/5.0

5.0 (comparison) .93
Lyricidal and BBCrackman's both match exactly on all except for listed below
A complete COD breakdown is available at:
9530/9500 .148/5.0.0.93[9000] Hybrid - Page 85 - BlackBerry Forums at CrackBerry.com

net_rim_tid_addrbookrep (Core Application)

net_rim_client_res (Email Setup Application)
net_rim_client_resources (Email Setup Application)
BB=.148
L=5.0.0.93

System Software
net_rim_cldc
BB=.132
L=.148

net_rim_cldc_io_impl
BB=.132
L=.148

net_rim_plazmic_media_engine (Note: Browser COD as well, Browser matches cod's except for)
BB=.132
L=.148

net_rim_bb_framework_api
BB=.132
L=.148

net_rim_bb_call_control
BB=.148
L=5.0.0.93

net_rim_bb_options_app
BB=.132
L=.148

net_rim_bb_phone_resource
BB=.141
L=.148

net_rim_bb_profiles_app
net_rim_bb_profiles_app_new
net_rim_bb_profiles_lib
net_rim_bb_profiles_alertengine_a
BB=.103
L=.148

net_rim_media
BB=.141
L=.148

net_rim_cldc
net_rim_cldc_io_impl
BB=.132
L=.148

Core Applications
net_rim_tid_addrbookrep
BB=.148
L=5.0.0.93

net_rim_bb_apps_framework
BB=.132
L=.148

net_rim_bb_profiles_tunes
BB=.103
L=.148

net_rim_bb_camera
BB=.113
L=.148

net_rim_bb_videorecorder
BB=.106
L=.148

Phone
net_rim_bb_phone_app
BB=.141
L=.148

I have been running the V6 Hybrid since this morning. After the initial battery pulls I had about 43 MB of memory. After about 2 hour the memory dropped to around 20 MB. I did a battery pul and the memory was back up to around 43. After one hour with the phone basically just charging, the memory has dropped to 24 MB. Any ideas?

When running the Hybrid V6 on top of .148, it said I was downgrading...is that normal?