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    Quote Originally Posted by jlevy73 View Post
    Like a poet cruz

    I know you and I have this discussion many times before. I just want to see something revolutionary come out of RIM. Maybe I am just expecting too much and should be happy with what I have but being an engineer I always am looking for ways to improve something. I am not an advocate of the iPhone or the Pre but they have added features that IMO would be excellent to see on BB's. Multitasking and an improved browser would be nice. Sometimes if aint broke don't fix it works but I see others gaining ground on Blackberry and it's time for them to take a revolutionary step forward.
    Understand completely, I'd kick RIM to the curb as fast as I would a cheating wife (both of which I've done in the past) however RIM gets it done for me. Verizon will p/u the iphone sometime in mid 2010, by then the entire landscape will have changed with technology. RIM has no competition to speak of, those that live for the Winmo apps will stay with entertainment, and those that need to do business will gravitate to the Blackberry.
    I have yet to see any respectible IT engineer whip out an iphone at any conference and remote into his server.
    I hear they have nice weather apps, when you can connect.



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    Quote Originally Posted by cruznthru View Post
    Understand completely, I'd kick RIM to the curb as fast as I would a cheating wife (both of which I've done in the past) however RIM gets it done for me. Verizon will p/u the iphone sometime in mid 2010, by then the entire landscape will have changed with technology. RIM has no competition to speak of, those that live for the Winmo apps will stay with entertainment, and those that need to do business will gravitate to the Blackberry.
    I have yet to see any respectible IT engineer whip out an iphone at any conference and remote into his server.
    I hear they have nice weather apps, when you can connect.
    Ha that is funny. Believe it or not Berryweather is nicer lol. I have seen an IT engineer attempt to remote into his conference but it resulted in bloodshed for the iPhone

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    Lol, point made..



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    I don't have luxury of trying many different phones, and I have not used an iPhone, so can not speak with the same authority as the Boy Genius reporter or many of you here. Yet, I can understand where RIM is coming from and why there are in the situation they are. It boils down to corporate culture and that's a very hard thing to change.

    I spent 28 years as a Software/Hardware Engineer for Tektronix, one of the finest makers of electronic test equipment in the world. In the beginning, their core products were oscilloscopes (used the measure and observe signals in electronic circuits). These of course were 100% hardware with no software (we're talking late 1940's here). It wasn't until the mid to late 1970s that the products started incorporating microprocessors and embedded software/firmware. By that time, the company had spent almost 30 years as a hardware company. All the managers from the first level supervisor to the President had a hardware orientation. None of them really knew anything about software, what makes software projects different from hardware projects or how to manage a software project.

    While software development and Software Engineering had been around for years, it was all mainframe based. Intel introduced the 8080 8-bit microprocessor in 1974, the year I graduated from college and joined Tek (now i'm showing my age :biglaugh. For many years, even though Tek products started incorporated microprocessors and software, the company was in what I would call a state of denial. The corporate culture said "we are not a software company." By the 1980s, they were very much a software driven company - all denials and protestations not withstanding - in that every piece of test equipment made was highly reliant on embedded processing power to provide the user interface and measurement capabilties required.

    I suspect RIM is in the thralls of a similar transition. They more than likely started life as a cell phone company, focusing on hardware features (large display, thumb wheel, later on QWERTY keyboards and color displays, etc.). That's their culture. There are probably some people in the company that realize they should not be a hardware company anymore and that they need to be a software focused company, but there are probably others that are stuck in the past.

    It's very hard for a company to move beyond the products and markets that made them a success. It's what everyone from the CEO on down know and understand. This is why you end up with variations on the theme and product improvement projects. (Many of RIMs newer products could just as well be called 8xxxA, 8xxxB, 9xxxA, 9xxxB, etc. instead of having new model numbers.) Internally, I suspect the company is struggling to figure out what their focus should be - i.e., should they continue to focus on the business market they know? should they move more into the consumer space?, etc. No doubt there is pressure from the software engineers to do a major rewrite of the OS (which is always fun and exciting for an engineer). Management is looking at the 3-5 year timeframe for a new from scratch OS and saying we can't afford to wait that long or spend that much money, so they continue to patch what they have and hope it will suffice.

    The companies that succeed in the long term are those that can make the paradigm shifts in company culture required to jump into new markets or remain successful in the ones they used to own. I hope RIM is one of those companies that can make that shift.

    [P.S. Any comments about what RIM is doing or not doing is pure speculation based on my observation of other high tech companies. I don't have inside knowledge and don't even know anyone that works for RIM.]

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    Well said Bill :fing02:



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    Nice Bill very well stated. Thanks for sharing your view.

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    hmmm

    i would have to agree, but the extra features would be nice, such as ur over somewhere persay at the Dr. office (or something), but still not necessary. i bought the device for connectivity and being able to get on the net andsearch for something at the sudden urge. I didn't get it nor take in to concideration will it have an app that i can shake the phone and it'll randomly pick a sopt to hide a dead body for me. it's a freaking smartphone, not a psp, ds, mp3 player, wannabe mac with the added feature of cell capibilities.
    Last edited by Mines_01; 07-29-2009 at 10:29 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mines_01 View Post
    i would have to agree, but the extra features would be nice, such as ur over somewhere persay at the Dr. office (or something), but still not necessary. i bought the device for connectivity and being able to get on the net andsearch for something at the sudden urge. I didn't get it nor take in to concideration will it have an app that i can shake the phone and it'll randomly pick a sopt to hide a dead body for me. it's a freaking smartphone, not a psp, ds, mp3 player, wannabe mac with the added feature of cell capibilities.
    Aww man now I want an app that I can shake the phone and it'll pick a spot for me to hide a dead body. Welcome to BlackberryOS.

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