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    Quote Originally Posted by joshjamie View Post
    Then, how many of the people switching in this poll are business users? Very few is my guess
    But how many of those business users, are actually able to switch? How many business users are given company issued phones, and are told what device they can or cannot have?



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    Quote Originally Posted by sunkast View Post
    But how many of those business users, are actually able to switch? How many business users are given company issued phones, and are told what device they can or cannot have?

    Good point...change the poll to how many business users would switch if given the opportunity

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    I AM a business user.....and NOT on BES. How many others like me are out there?

    Like I said earlier, what diff does BIS make to the non corporate guy that relies on his phone for up to the minute updates?

    I REQUIRE a better web interface for MY business.....I guess as long as everyone gets their email right away and the admins can monitor each phone's usage, it doesn't matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glockguy View Post
    I AM a business user.....and NOT on BES. How many others like me are out there?

    Like I said earlier, what diff does BIS make to the non corporate guy that relies on his phone for up to the minute updates?

    I REQUIRE a better web interface for MY business.....I guess as long as everyone gets their email right away and the admins can monitor each phone's usage, it doesn't matter.
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    I have 2. One for work on the BES and another personal one on BIS I use for as a consultant. I have one son using a droid and another using am iphone. For business purposes, they're phones don't come close in comparison. They're target consumer is teenagers, plain and simple, and as such, cannot currently compete with the bb. On that, if they continue to target the teenager as the principle user, they will never compete with the bb.
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    I am one of the people who defected to the Droid, only to realize that it was more of a toy, rather than a smartphone. I ended up selling it on eBay and as I predicted it commanded a very nice price.

    I am currently using the Palm Pre Plus, which I will say is the best of all of my smartphones, including; Droid, Tour, Storm1, and Storm2. WebOS is a very solid product and find the form factor a plus. Of course there are drawbacks, because webOS has not taken off, the app situation is weak, some people will say battery life, but I have yet to experience that.

    Of course, this is just my opinion....



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    Quote Originally Posted by cslaten View Post
    I am one of the people who defected to the Droid, only to realize that it was more of a toy, rather than a smartphone. I ended up selling it on eBay and as I predicted it commanded a very nice price.

    I am currently using the Palm Pre Plus, which I will say is the best of all of my smartphones, including; Droid, Tour, Storm1, and Storm2. WebOS is a very solid product and find the form factor a plus. Of course there are drawbacks, because webOS has not taken off, the app situation is weak, some people will say battery life, but I have yet to experience that.

    Of course, this is just my opinion....
    That is the fear I have had for Palm. I really think they are on a sinking ship. The pre was their last straw IMO. But I think it was too little too late. Much like the situation RIM could be in if they don't pick up the pace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joshjamie View Post
    This poll IMO is inaccurate. I've been saying this since day one, and have seen it mentioned quite a few times in this thread. The BB was not made or marketed for the teenager or the baby boomer as a status symbol. It was made for and is continued to be made for the professional business user. Yes, Rim does not keep up with the Iphone 150 000 apps, or cater to every wish and whim out there that people have. Yes, the native browser is slow, but there are free options out there (bolt, Opera Mini), both of which work amazingly well, until the Web Kit is released.

    Now back to the graph illustrated above. How many of those people are teenagers who are attracted by a phone that will allow them 150k+ apps, or better streaming video? Or the baby boomer that is keeping up with the guy next door. Then, how many of the people switching in this poll are business users? Very few is my guess.

    RIM is designing, making and marketing a tool for business use. This has been they're core value since day one and will continue to be so for many years to come. I think that if any poll should be set up by Brett, it should be directed at business users here at BBOS, asking them if they will switch to a different smartphone. I'm guessing the results would be significantly skewed.

    The comments you are making are interesting BUT, RIM is now selling Blackberries to the comman man, to that teenager who wants the all singing, all dancing smartphone.

    In the UK they are even selling BB's in PC World, a computer store chain thats the biggest in the country. You can get them in chemist shops and, well, everywhere.

    Blackberries are here to stay, and yes great for the business user who they were INITIALLY aimed at, but they are now aimed at the mass market.

    RIM needs to address that, and sharpish if it wants to carry on with these record sales its getting.

    I love my Storm 1. I love being able to change the OS, the themes and apps (yes more memory is needed in it) but I am considering the HTC EVO 4G if it ever gets out to the public where I am.

    As one of those consumers, I want a smartphone that is fast, that carries out the actions I want in real time. The Storm (memory issue) does lag and the browser sucks. Mini Opera is slightly better, but not much.

    I am a heavy Blackberry user, I like to be able to access my files on any of my three PC's, (using Docs to go of course) in real time. But I am considering what else is on the market.

    One last thing in my little rant, iPhone??? Not on your life.
    Not my cup of of tea at all.

    Of course, this is just my opinion and is here for debate only.

    Also i have a NOKIA N97 as my second/work phone. I'm selling it, its rubbish. Loads of memory but the OS is pants.
    Anyone want it?
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