Thread: Mystery Solved: why so many people lost BlackBerry App World login abilities around July 10th.......

First the last three months I've wondered why I got the ("40721") error everytime I tried to download from app world. I thought it was cuz I didn't have a data plan with at&t... just voice and sms...but then why would I have had access to it for 6 months prior and then just stop working. I think I figured it out..

In Jan my old bb does and a guy in Austin had one he didnt use...so he unlocked his tmobile 8520 and did the necessary procedures to get it ready to give to me. So yay I had a phone again...but it was an unlocked one..so that was cool cuz i dont have andata plan or anything.. I just use wifi ...

All good till early July one of my husband's friends found a random T mobile smartphone (I dunno..it wasnt a bb tho)...and he decided to keep it or whatever ( i still think he stole it from someone tho). .........Well being idiots that we were we thought "hey let's see if this (my) sim card will work in this t mobile phone.. ( then he put the tmobile mobile sim card in my bb8520 which mighta worked, if it hadnt been unlocked for att service)....we thought it wouldnhurt to try... Lol were so used to switching out sim cards with other devices around here... My husband has 2 iphones, a pantech, and a htc... He juggles his sim all the time..

now I've been reading and educating myself on imeis and miems and ens...cuz I'm looking to buy a new BB ..but don't wanna be ripped off of on ebay and recieve a blocked phone

... Anyhow..I now know what happend. My sim went into the "stolen" phone... T mobiles network then set a block on that device...but luckily att has safeguards preventing my sim from being locked as well..

But the tmobile sim card that went into my bb phone then sent a signal to ATT to block my phone. Once its in suspense...allbthats left is blackberry access.

Then, i think at&t (my carrier) might have had to report the issue to RIM. From there i think rim can suspend the device PIN.


What does this have to do which July 10th you ask???? Well...a big light bulb lit up over my head just a while ago when I ran across this website about blacklisting.....

ATT Tracking Lost And Stolen Phones - Business Insider

And thats when it all started to make sence. Hell i could be wrong...but switching sim cards out with rival network cards, its a baaad idea...lol.

Wow.

LOL. Omg. Damnit. This playbook is set to auto correct so when I'm typing slang or abbreviations it finishes the word with something else... Sorry.. I will go back and edit it...

Lol but yeah... I was so confused for months why my bbid wouldn't work on my phone, nor app world.... It's my theory And I'm sticking to it. Lol

Lol ok..hope it made more sense after the edit. Lol between my fast paced thought, wifi lagging the input on the playbook, and that of a choosey playbok keyboard,..... its a wonder anyone could read anything..,lol

Not quite, if an imei is blacklisted, it wont matter which network its attached to when the blacklist takes affect. Also, using a rivals sim card in your phone has 2, and only 2 outcomes. Either the device shows an invalid sim message, or the device works normally. The issue in question affected users who were using sim locked devices as well as cdma devices (which do not use a sim card) on a variety of networks, which rules out network specific causes. Most likely, the issue was on the BIS side.

Anthony, you are one post away from 200!

This one is number 201.