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    Disabling a BES on a Blackberry

    Does anyone know if there's a way to disable a BES connection on a Blackberry without wiping the device? I'd been using a BES on my Storm and want to switch over to BIS. Would prefer not to wipe my blackberry. Thanks.




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    You could have your BES administrator delete your account from the BES. Then activate BIS on your device and change your default services under advanced options. It will show enterprise activated, but it won't do anything. You can also delete the "desktop" services under the service book which will disable the BES without wiping.

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    Wirelessly posted (Storm 9530)

    You have to switch plans with your carrier from BES to BIS.
    No matter where you go, there you are

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    Quote Originally Posted by snmemx View Post
    Does anyone know if there's a way to disable a BES connection on a Blackberry without wiping the device? I'd been using a BES on my Storm and want to switch over to BIS. Would prefer not to wipe my blackberry. Thanks.
    Go to Options/Advanced Options/Service Books and delete all entries with the prefix "Desktop" this will essentially remove your BES and you can now set up your BIS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bbcrackman View Post
    Go to Options/Advanced Options/Service Books and delete all entries with the prefix "Desktop" this will essentially remove your BES and you can now set up your BIS.
    Learn something new every day thanks BB

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    no matter if you wipe or not...you'll still have the IT policy on the device...good luck
    besides...you can use both BIS and BES on a device...

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    The biggest benefit of BES is the complete sync of your email, calendar, appointments, contacts with your computer over the air. The downside is your phone pretty much becomes property of your employer whom can see anything you do, and prohibit you from doing things on your phone.

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    Can they see your calls, other email accounts(not on BES), internet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sunkast View Post
    The biggest benefit of BES is the complete sync of your email, calendar, appointments, contacts with your computer over the air. The downside is your phone pretty much becomes property of your employer whom can see anything you do, and prohibit you from doing things on your phone.
    The biggest benefit of BES in my opinion is the instant email delivery. There's a lag w. the BIS...sometimes not much but I think it can be up to 10min. You can achieve the same synchronization w. a standard gmail account (google sync will sync your calendar/contacts, but not tasks) over the air, in addition to syncing your email. The downside is that it's not as quick as the BES.

    If you want to run an individual BES setup, or are self-employed and have your own domain and want to sync that to your blackberry, you can outsource your BES setup to a 3rd party for a very low monthly fee. I've posted elsewhere on BBOS about this and my experience w. one provider (that I like a lot), but don't want to keep mentioning them in other posts lest it look like I have something to gain by referring them.

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    My password still has a little lock on it and will not permit me to disable the password. I removed the BES like BBC instructed. Any help would be much appreciated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmiller98 View Post
    My password still has a little lock on it and will not permit me to disable the password. I removed the BES like BBC instructed. Any help would be much appreciated.
    who is your carrier? and did your work place remove you from the system?

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    BES, why or why not?

    Perfect! i have been looking for some information regarding connection to a BES and here i finally found some answers. I was wondering what essentially are the benefits of being connected to the BES at all! I can get my email account attached to my BB anyway. My frustrations come from the fact that i have my own BB and i have had it connected to the BES at work, but i have found that i cannot upgrade somethings without the IT guy being involved (i.e the OS), plus for some silly reason i cannot PIN anyone outside of those also connected to the BES. I am seeking some answers and ideas as I will be getting a new BB very soon and i am wondering the about whether or not i should allow my work to connect it to the BES. Anything anyone has to say would be helpful, thanks!:aargh4:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bitpartdemon View Post
    Perfect! i have been looking for some information regarding connection to a BES and here i finally found some answers. I was wondering what essentially are the benefits of being connected to the BES at all! I can get my email account attached to my BB anyway. My frustrations come from the fact that i have my own BB and i have had it connected to the BES at work, but i have found that i cannot upgrade somethings without the IT guy being involved (i.e the OS), plus for some silly reason i cannot PIN anyone outside of those also connected to the BES. I am seeking some answers and ideas as I will be getting a new BB very soon and i am wondering the about whether or not i should allow my work to connect it to the BES. Anything anyone has to say would be helpful, thanks!:aargh4:
    Sounds like your BES Admin has those things you mentioned locked down. Nothing you can do about it. On one hand, with BES you'll have your email and calendar synced wirelessly, but on the other hand, you'll have a tougher time installing OS's and dealing with the restrictions if you stay with BES. Without BES, you won't have those restrictions, but you won't have your email and calendar synced wirelessly.
    Last edited by sunkast; 01-19-2010 at 06:22 PM.

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    Thanks! I think I will stay off the BES. No one at work uses the BB properly anyway. The calendar isn't used for anything, I ise it for everything. Thanks for the advice!
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    Okay so i thought i was off the BES. but when i go to try and upgrade my OS to 5.0 it tells me the administrator has to do it!? I just want my phone back! i have the BIS for the email set up and running. I read the previous info on deleting everything marked Desktop. Will that give me my permissions back and get me off the BES for sure? Also the IT guy is telling me the problem with the BIS is that a computer has to be on at all times? a work computer or the data carrier??

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    Try this, go to Options > Security > General. At the bottom look for Services:. Do you see anything listed under that?

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    Yes under services there are Desktop [S48482215](AES) and peer [BBM_p2p](3DES)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bitpartdemon View Post
    Yes under services there are Desktop [S48482215](AES) and peer [BBM_p2p](3DES)
    I'm just guessing here but I think you may have connected your personal BB to your work computer, and by doing so the enterprise server installed an IT policy onto your phone. You should be able to remove it using CrackUtil.

    http://www.berryosfiles.com/downloads/CrackUtil.zip

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    Yes that is what has happened and now i want my BB back for just me and i will get the email through the BIS. That link you posted doesn't seem to be working.

    Also wouldn't it be just as easy to get the IT guy to remove me from the BES, therefore removing the IT policy from work?
    Last edited by Bitpartdemon; 02-01-2010 at 02:26 PM. Reason: added questions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bitpartdemon View Post
    Yes that is what has happened and now i want my BB back for just me and i will get the email through the BIS. That link you posted doesn't seem to be working.

    Also wouldn't it be just as easy to get the IT guy to remove me from the BES, therefore removing the IT policy from work?
    Oops the link must have changed on me. Try this one.

    http://www.blackberryos.com/forums/d...d=193&act=down

    Maybe, it all depends on how willing to help your BES admin is.

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