Thread: Just to add some excitement.... VZW is getting 5.0.0.288 to test today for 9530!!!

Can't wait for it to drop (or at least the fixes/changes sheet). I'm actually pretty excited for the new BBM to drop since you can apparently integrate individual contact into it for threaded SMS. I like how BBM is setup a lot more than I do the current threaded SMS. The current threaded is definitely nicer than the old style with tons of messages everywhere, but BBM just pulls it off so much better.

Originally Posted by quiet1

Yea I think VZW need to have hybrid builders on their team.. they crank out hybrids in no time, and they're a one man (women just so i don't offend anyone lol) team and they're quick...but then again, sometimes it's easier to get a job done alone than with others lol

Now now! Let's not be*too* mean to Verizon. The initial .75 OS was clearly rushed, and it nearly ruined the Storm as a viable consumer device. They can't afford to have an official release have *any* major bugs.

Plus there are still loads of third-party apps that don't work on any 5.0 to date. What's gonna happen when the update goes out and somebody's grandmother can't use her cross stitching app(or whatever)? Frankly, I'm a little shocked that they would bother to even *think* about releasing a 5.0 OS for that reason alone. Pleased, but shocked.

Now, the perfect solution would be if they would just leak it to US... We won't mind a few bugs to play with a potential official 5.0 release, now would we? Verizon? You listening! Seriously. C'mon... Please?
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Plus, what would happen if it got into the hands of all the hybrid builders around here...

Ok ok your right, but i'm soo impatient lol. Y couldn't they have tested the OS weeks ago.. lol O i'm soo impatient

Originally Posted by B Jorje

Plus there are still loads of third-party apps that don't work on any 5.0 to date. What's gonna happen when the update goes out and somebody's grandmother can't use her cross stitching app(or whatever)? Frankly, I'm a little shocked that they would bother to even *think* about releasing a 5.0 OS for that reason alone. Pleased, but shocked.

I'm frankly a bit shocked that someone would consider 3rd party app incompatibility to be a good reason to hold back an OS launch, assuming the OS is otherwise ready. It is 100% up to the app developers to release compatible versions. But it is NOT a good reason to hold back an OS.

Consider the main reason I say this: RIM is PUSHING for an across-the-board release of 5.0 - many enterprise customers are now on BES 5.0; and without a 5.0 OS on the device; many of the new features cannot be taken advantage of. RIM wants 5.0 out, they are NOT going to hold back waiting for Joe Programmer to release his latest version of "Super Icon Hockey"

And frankly, if 5.0-native devices are set to launch sometime soon, i'd say it's high time Verizon gets to testing (and passing) a 5.0 build.

Originally Posted by olta777

And you know we love to do that


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I know, I know!
You guys are good at it too!
I'm working on learning my way around.. :grouphug:

^^ here here agreed !

Originally Posted by Dave12308

I'm frankly a bit shocked that someone would consider 3rd party app incompatibility to be a good reason to hold back an OS launch, assuming the OS is otherwise ready. It is 100% up to the app developers to release compatible versions. But it is NOT a good reason to hold back an OS.

Consider the main reason I say this: RIM is PUSHING for an across-the-board release of 5.0 - many enterprise customers are now on BES 5.0; and without a 5.0 OS on the device; many of the new features cannot be taken advantage of. RIM wants 5.0 out, they are NOT going to hold back waiting for Joe Programmer to release his latest version of "Super Icon Hockey"

And frankly, if 5.0-native devices are set to launch sometime soon, i'd say it's high time Verizon gets to testing (and passing) a 5.0 build.

^^
here here agreed !:haha:

Originally Posted by Natemz

I hear you. That would be a nice surprise. But it won't happen

We all know how slow Vzw is about software releases.

Yeah, if it went into testing on Monday; and assuming it doesn't end up failing at some point; it will probably mean almost a month of testing before it could potentially see a release. The way RIM is pushing 5.0; it'd surprise me if we DIDN'T see a 5.0 release become official by the end of November, though - as RIM has stated that 5.0 WILL be released by year's end. This is just me thinking in the back of my mind; but with the amount of people likely taking time off from work for the holidays (speaking about RIM/Verizon employees) they'd probably want to have something finalized BEFORE December begins.

Again, that's just me thinking out loud; but I KNOW that where I work, they like to have major projects DONE before the holidays..... And i'd consider a device-wide rollout of a new OS to be a MAJOR project.

Originally Posted by Dave12308

I'm frankly a bit shocked that someone would consider 3rd party app incompatibility to be a good reason to hold back an OS launch, assuming the OS is otherwise ready. It is 100% up to the app developers to release compatible versions. But it is NOT a good reason to hold back an OS.

Consider the main reason I say this: RIM is PUSHING for an across-the-board release of 5.0 - many enterprise customers are now on BES 5.0; and without a 5.0 OS on the device; many of the new features cannot be taken advantage of. RIM wants 5.0 out, they are NOT going to hold back waiting for Joe Programmer to release his latest version of "Super Icon Hockey"

And frankly, if 5.0-native devices are set to launch sometime soon, i'd say it's high time Verizon gets to testing (and passing) a 5.0 build.

You couldn't have stated it any better. Holding back an OS because developers aren't stepping up doesn't make sense to me. Plus the new JDE has been issued for OS 5.0 so there really is no excuse for many of these apps to still not be working. I say release 5.0 officially and let developers fix their apps. If not someone else and they will lose out on business.

I could remember how long it took VZW to test and pass 4.7.0.148.
I remember we all had it for a few weeks.

relevant? this is from patches on crackberry

Originally Posted by patches152

they're getting a new build for 9530, 9550, tour, and some other phones as well...but they are getting it "sometime this week"

and by "they" i mean friendly user testing...so VZW has been testing these for awhile already

If IRL testing is getting these newer builds sometime this week, then we are looking at a minimum of 3-4 weeks before they could possibly be approved for release as an official OS.

This also would mean that network testing has been going on for quite some time already and that it is due to pass network testing. I won't say that it passed because if IRL testing doesn't have it yet, then it hasn't passed network testing yet.

All this is good news for us either way. One, it means that a leak is getting close as once it is in the hands of the IRL testers, it tends to make it out. And 2, if it in the hands of IRL testers, it means that it is a decent build. So we have 2 things to be happy about.

I would just like GSM connection to work the way it should with the APN settings set. If not then up for sale it goes. Us unlocked Storm users have been waiting for a good GSM radio programming since this phone came out.

So where is the waiting room?

Originally Posted by xxxmerlinxxx

I would just like GSM connection to work the way it should with the APN settings set. If not then up for sale it goes. Us unlocked Storm users have been waiting for a good GSM radio programming since this phone came out.

The thing is.. The GSM radio in the 9530 works flawlessly.. there are too many people trying to use it on US GSM frequencies which it is not made to do. it was made for European frequencies

Originally Posted by jnepsa

The thing is.. The GSM radio in the 9530 works flawlessly.. there are too many people trying to use it on US GSM frequencies which it is not made to do. it was made for European frequencies

excellent point...i dont think a lot of people realize the difference

Originally Posted by jlevy73

You couldn't have stated it any better. Holding back an OS because developers aren't stepping up doesn't make sense to me. Plus the new JDE has been issued for OS 5.0 so there really is no excuse for many of these apps to still not be working. I say release 5.0 officially and let developers fix their apps. If not someone else and they will lose out on business.

Fair enough. I was just trying to be nice!
Now that they've got their emulators up and running, I really hope that some of my 3rd party apps get some improved functionality in 5.0.
Honestly though, the performance of the current leaked OS is wonderful, so all I really would like to see is the last bugs getting ironed out. Sound and graphical glitches and the like. Really, even just with the leaked stuff we have, I think that the OS looks to be in remarkably good shape. Whenever they do decide to let it loose, I'll be waiting!

Originally Posted by jnepsa

The thing is.. The GSM radio in the 9530 works flawlessly.. there are too many people trying to use it on US GSM frequencies which it is not made to do. it was made for European frequencies

So then what is the difference between US 850mhz and EU 850mhz? I know it wont work on 3g. But EDGE should be steady. It even says it on the BB website that is it compatible. Im just trying to get my facts straight as to why GSM connection has been such an issue. I know this post isnt about edge issues, so if you want to PM me that works too.

Wireless Networks

UMTS/HSPA: 2100 MHz
North America: 850 MHz GSM®/GPRS networks
North America: 1900MHz GSM/GPRS networks
Europe/Asia Pacific: 1800MHz GSM/GPRS networks
Europe/Asia Pacific: 900MHz GSM/GPRS networks
Dual-Band: 800/1900 MHz CDMA/Ev-DO networks

Originally Posted by xxxmerlinxxx

So then what is the difference between US 850mhz and EU 850mhz? I know it wont work on 3g. But EDGE should be steady. It even says it on the BB website that is it compatible. Im just trying to get my facts straight as to why GSM connection has been such an issue. I know this post isnt about edge issues, so if you want to PM me that works too.

Wireless Networks

UMTS/HSPA: 2100 MHz
North America: 850 MHz GSM®/GPRS networks
North America: 1900MHz GSM/GPRS networks
Europe/Asia Pacific: 1800MHz GSM/GPRS networks
Europe/Asia Pacific: 900MHz GSM/GPRS networks
Dual-Band: 800/1900 MHz CDMA/Ev-DO networks

that means it will merely connect to edge not EDGE, as far as not holding signal the OS designed for the 9530 is not made for an EDGE connection.. Its just the down side to having any device on a network that it was not designed for.. no big deal

Wirelessly posted

Makes sense to me