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    One of RIM's selling points is the fact that their devices are available in pretty much every carrier around the world and that there are a ton of different form factors to make consumers happy no matter what they want.

    Take the Style for example, while I would probably never get it, I personally know 3 people that joined BlackBerry bc they ONLY like flip phones and since the iPhone isn't a flip phone they chose to get the Style. I definitely think that can be a double edge sword which can help but also hurt a cellphone manufacturer for the obvious reasons.

    I personally think RIM needs to condense their lineup into 4 categories from here on in.
    • Basic candy bar (BlackBerry Bold for high-end and BlackBerry Curve for low-end)
    • Flip phone (BlackBerry Style)
    • Touch screen (BlackBerry Volt)
    • Slider (BlackBerry Torch)


    Now I'm not a developer, so I don't know how easy or difficult it is for developers to make apps available for different phone screen sizes; etc but it probably could only help to have only 4 form factors that everyone could focus on.

    That being said, competition is great for us as consumers cuz it ensures that rival companies keep moving forward, unfortunately for us, RIM hasn't yet really used this motivation to increase our satisfaction and pride(yes, pride) to be a BlackBerry owner like it use to be (think back to when Android didn't exist and the iPhone was first released and they couldn't even send MMS, or take video or get push email).

    Hopefully RIM gets that back soon...



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    Quote Originally Posted by jerry12 View Post
    I hope the top guy's at BB have learn from this a few year's ago Rim had a market cap at 80 Billion & then down to 20 Billion & today at 15 Billion all because they were going to keep pushing old hardware & software. If you look at what Rim had being saying for some time they were talking about new market over seas in country's like Kenya , India & other market's like that. I think that Rim though that they could use the old hardware in those country's & get by with it & remember those aren't a high tech country's. Rim can't make it on just those type of market's they still need the U.S.A market. The top management screwed up big time. Now they are going to lay off worker's & the little people have to take the hit for what some one else did.
    Bingo, although world markets are a bonus, they do not produce the consumption and revenue as the US Market, especially when it comes to electronics, luxuries. It seems that RIM has neglected the US Market way to much by focusing on trying to go global. Let's face the facts here, no other market has the consuming power of the US Market. I think RIM's main motivation for going global was back when RIM had the US Market lead, and the demand was high for BlackBerry globally. But all in all when it comes down to it. The US Market demands the phone with the most apps and the best specs. Most cellphone users are not worried about great push email, nor need the service. BBM is what is keeping RIM alive at this point in the software dept. And great phone design/quality, is what is keeping them alive in the aesthetics dept. Now just time to up the apps, speed, hardware (front camera)... STAT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poita316 View Post
    I feel somewhat the same.
    I jumped from Nokia to RIM because I wanted a compacter, faster and more sollid smartphone. Those Communicators (9*** series and E90) where big! Tried a BB and loved it from that moment on.
    I don't like iPhones (had one a month and sold it) yet Androids I never used.
    I agree, delaying more / longer will be a potential nail in the coffin, which I hope doesn't happen. I don't see them go belly up soon, plenty of cash and no debt, but it will be a hard fight to maintain a secure #3 spot before WM and Nokia start spitting out new devices.
    Nokia is making a smart move, the first WM devices will be launched in The Netherlands, then UK and 4 other countries. Nokia finds The Netherlands (my lovely country) as one of Europes most important markets. And by going to Europe first, they might deliver a blow to RIM who are trying to take a bit of the European market.
    *looks at his Nokia 6310i* Those where the day's... A sollid device built to be used for years.
    I have recently move from A Bold 9700 to Android 2.2, and I just want to say that I can't believe I hadn't done this sooner. Blackberry was great, ya, but since touching Android, I'm afriad I have been lost to their competitors. At least there is a forseeable future for Android, definitely due to the fact that it runs on SEVERAL devices, as opposed to iPhone being iPhone and Blackberry being Blackberry. I can now purchase a Samsung, HTC you name it and enjoy the same experience anywhere on multiple devices.



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    Rim has a lot to catch up if even they can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dilly120 View Post
    I have recently move from A Bold 9700 to Android 2.2, and I just want to say that I can't believe I hadn't done this sooner. Blackberry was great, ya, but since touching Android, I'm afriad I have been lost to their competitors. At least there is a forseeable future for Android, definitely due to the fact that it runs on SEVERAL devices, as opposed to iPhone being iPhone and Blackberry being Blackberry. I can now purchase a Samsung, HTC you name it and enjoy the same experience anywhere on multiple devices.
    I had a DroidX for awhile and it was a buggy device. Especially once a lot of apps were installed.



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