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    Torch 2 9810 and Torch 9850, 9860


    According to multiple unofficial reports/leaks the newest additions to the BlackBerry lineup, the 9810, 9850 and 9860, will all share a common name: Torch.

    To make the distinctions clear, the Torch 9810 will be most likely known as the Torch 2 as it's the predecessor of the first Torch 9800 and will only be available to GSM carriers. In the U.S. the 9810 would join both AT&T and T-Mobile's lineup. No reports or leaks suggest that there will be a CDMA version of the popular RIM slider.

    Then it gets a little confusing. When pictures first leaked of the BlackBerry codenamed Monaco/Monza it was thought they'd be the 3rd version of the Storm series due to the fact that it had no keyboard and was only touch screen. Unfortunately though, it seems that the "Storm" brand name had too many negative stigmas attached to it which prompted a change.

    Most outlets starting calling it the BlackBerry Touch for lack of an official name. Then reports came out suggesting that the Monaco/Monza could be known as the Volt. The name again changed when certain leaked documents seem to indicate that the 9850 will now be known instead as the Torch. Logically, the 9860 would also be a Torch but would instead be available for GSM carriers.

    While none of this is officially confirmed by RIM, it does seem like by the end of the year we'll have multiple BlackBerry devices named Torch (one a slider/touch screen combo and one just touch screen) which for some could get confusing.

    This seems to be a good strategy on RIM's part to drop the "Storm" brand name specially due to all the complaints about the Storm I and Storm II's hardware, the lack of OS 6 support, and overall public dissatisfaction with it. The Torch 9850/9860 will feature the 9810's touch screen which is a different technology than that of the Storm which used "SurePress". So with all that in mind do you think it's a good idea for BlackBerry to name its next full touch screen phone Torch? If not, what would you name it?
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    I'm a Storm1, Storm2, and a Torch 9800 user. To this day, i still love the way surePress worked on the Storm2 more than any other BlackBerry (The Torch comes in at a close second). So just know that I've spent a lot of time using them all. Based off of that experience, I can honestly say that I don't think the Storm was a failed experiment. It got better and better.

    Some can say that the Torch was hardly anything to brag about. So it's a slider... Big deal. OS 6, yes, it's much better than OS 5, but the next rendition of the Storm was supposed to have OS 6, and if that ever came to fruition, the line would've been extremely successful. But RIM held that product back... potentially for some entirely new OS according to information provided by Salmondrin. Could that be the new QNX operating system on the upcoming version? That remains to be seen, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

    To call this model a Torch makes no sense at all. The Torch is a completely different form-factor. The Storm series is not. The operating system is what will define these products.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Revyrah View Post
    To call this model a Torch makes no sense at all. The Torch is a completely different form-factor. The Storm series is not. The operating system is what will define these products.
    Right, I'm in favor on not calling it a Torch, since it has already been used in a OS 6 device.

    I like the name Volt.

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    I am for the storm, but in the same regard the storm has a bad rep with it.
    I am in favor a totally new name. Maybe Volt, or whatever...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Jerde View Post
    Right, I'm in favor on not calling it a Torch, since it has already been used in a OS 6 device.

    I like the name Volt.
    I really don't like the Volt title either. It sounds too similar to Bold or Bolt (thunderbolt). Looking at the device, it's a Storm. But if they want to change it up, Blaze could work. Possibly go with a Royalty series: King, Queen, Prince, Princess.

    Whatever they choose, naming it a Torch is just. Ridiculous.

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    These are some that I believe would work, and probably work well:

    Ion, Arc, Photon (Following the electrical nature of the storm series)
    Pyre, Firestorm, Fusion (Following the fire like theme of the Torch series)




    I personally like Arc. It just sounds cool... Blackberry Arc
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    Quote Originally Posted by JSLEnterprises View Post
    These are some that I believe would work, and probably work well:

    Ion, Arc, Photon (Following the electrical nature of the storm series)
    Pyre, Firestorm, Fusion (Following the fire like theme of the Torch series)




    I personally like Arc. It just sounds cool... Blackberry Arc
    Arc sounds nice. So does Photon (How bout Electron )

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    I just really don't like the idea of having a Torch 2 and then having another phone called the Torch *confused bbm smiley*
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    I agree...........I don't think it should be called "Torch 2". To me thats like turning a coffee table into a dining table by putting taller legs on it and calling it a coffee table 2. At that point its not a coffee table anymore its a dining table. Sorry only analogy I could think of.....LOL Volt sounds good to me.
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    Coffee table 2... LOL wow that literally made me laugh out...
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    Quote Originally Posted by kristiewestraspe View Post
    I agree...........I don't think it should be called "Torch 2". To me thats like turning a coffee table into a dining table by putting taller legs on it and calling it a coffee table 2. At that point its not a coffee table anymore its a dining table. Sorry only analogy I could think of.....LOL Volt sounds good to me.
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    Don't know that my opinion will change the BB world LOL but at least I can put some humor into it. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSLEnterprises View Post
    These are some that I believe would work, and probably work well:

    Ion, Arc, Photon (Following the electrical nature of the storm series)
    Pyre, Firestorm, Fusion (Following the fire like theme of the Torch series)




    I personally like Arc. It just sounds cool... Blackberry Arc
    OOOOOOOOO now those names are cool!!!!

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    Would the Torch 2 be any bigger than the original Torch although I am quite used to the Torch's keyboard a little more room would be nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by callec39 View Post
    Would the Torch 2 be any bigger than the original Torch although I am quite used to the Torch's keyboard a little more room would be nice.
    The Torch 2 would look pretty much exactly the same as the original Torch with only the inner specs being greatly upgraded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sabisgeek View Post
    Arc sounds nice. So does Photon (How bout Electron )
    Well, Electron denotes a Negative Charge so on a strictly marketing sense, I doubt it would be used :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by JSLEnterprises View Post
    Well, Electron denotes a Negative Charge so on a strictly marketing sense, I doubt it would be used :P
    Haha, so Proton would be the ideal name then? Or stick with a safe name and go with Neutron.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Jerde View Post
    Haha, so Proton would be the ideal name then? Or stick with a safe name and go with Neutron.

    Or maybe they'd just go "...to hell with it!" and call it a "Quark".




    And I'm not talking about this guy ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSLEnterprises View Post
    Or maybe they'd just go "...to hell with it!" and call it a "Quark".

    And I'm not talking about this guy ...

    I hated that guy!

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    Hey Joe, do you think that a SurePress BBX phone is just what the Storm line needs to garner some respect?

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