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    Exclamation Unlocked T-Mobile Unable to get on 3G Network in Other Areas?

    I just received info from a couple friends that their T-Mobile Onyx can't get on 3G networks in other areas despite having it unlocked... anybody can confirm this?

    There was also some rumor going around that the Rogers Onyx can only use 3G network in Canada? And T-Mobile Onyx can only use 3G network in the US?

    I'm getting my Rogers Bold to use in Indonesia.... can anybody confirm whether I can get on the 3G network if the device is unlocked? mfg:




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    Quote Originally Posted by arek28 View Post
    I just received info from a couple friends that their T-Mobile Onyx can't get on 3G networks in other areas despite having it unlocked... anybody can confirm this?

    There was also some rumor going around that the Rogers Onyx can only use 3G network in Canada? And T-Mobile Onyx can only use 3G network in the US?

    I'm getting my Rogers Bold to use in Indonesia.... can anybody confirm whether I can get on the 3G network if the device is unlocked? mfg:
    even if unlocked you will still only get the edge for connection and not 3G in the us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnepsa View Post
    even if unlocked you will still only get the edge for connection and not 3G in the us.
    Yes.. I heard the T-Mobile devices are hardwired in a way that they can only use 3G on US networks..

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    It all depends on 3g frequencies, the one used in US by tmo is 2100 mhz while the one used for att is 1900 mhz making both incompatible, so if I were you I would go ahead and check the full specifications at bb site about what 3g frequencies does the 9700 support and verify if you carrier is in the range of 3/ or EDGE...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ealvnv View Post
    It all depends on 3g frequencies, the one used in US by tmo is 2100 mhz while the one used for att is 1900 mhz making both incompatible, so if I were you I would go ahead and check the full specifications at bb site about what 3g frequencies does the 9700 support and verify if you carrier is in the range of 3/ or EDGE...
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    Size: 2.4 x 4.2 x 0.6 inches Weight: 4.3 ounces Included battery: 1500 mAh Lion Talk time: up to 6 hours Standby time: up to 15 days Band (frequency): 850 MHz;900 MHz;1800 MHz;1900 MHz;UMTS: Band IV (1700/2100)
    The above spec is stated on the T-Mobile site, so I assume that the device should also support 1800/1900 MHz?

    A friend of mine using the T-Mobile 9700 said that there is no option to switch between 2G/3G, it is automatic by default, would an OS update fix this?

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    Point blank...

    T-Mobile 9700 will NOT have 3G on any other US network aside from T-Mobile, it will be a EDGE only device.

    (Also applies to Canadian networks as well as none have fully launched AWS)

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    Actually tmo uses 1700 and is the only carrier in the US to that, which is why it won't work with at&t 3g. Most european countries use 2100 for 3g which is why it can still use 3g abroad if there's 2100

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    @arek28

    Despite what you hear from your buds, Blaze is 110% correct. The same goes with the Bold 9000 and the Storms. Their 3G are network specific, meaning their 3G will only work on the network the device was release too.

    And the same goes for all other 3G smartphones in the market; except for one phone. I don't recall its name. But it was design to work on all non CDMA 3G network. US, and Europe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bla1ze View Post
    Point blank...

    T-Mobile 9700 will NOT have 3G on any other US network aside from T-Mobile, it will be a EDGE only device.

    (Also applies to Canadian networks as well as none have fully launched AWS)
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    @arek28

    Despite what you hear from your buds, Blaze is 110% correct. The same goes with the Bold 9000 and the Storms. Their 3G are network specific, meaning their 3G will only work on the network the device was release too.

    And the same goes for all other 3G smartphones in the market; except for one phone. I don't recall its name. But it was design to work on all non CDMA 3G network. US, and Europe.
    These 2 are 100% right.. now if you want it to work 3g overseas dont by the xx30 or xx50 version of that phone..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ealvnv View Post
    It all depends on 3g frequencies, the one used in US by tmo is 2100 mhz while the one used for att is 1900 mhz making both incompatible, so if I were you I would go ahead and check the full specifications at bb site about what 3g frequencies does the 9700 support and verify if you carrier is in the range of 3/ or EDGE...
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    T-Mobile uses 1700mhz for 3G and AT&T uses 1900mhz for 3G....along with Rogers. Sooo the moral of the story is if you have AT&T wait for them to release the 9700 or get one from Rogers....I'd wait 4 days...

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    Quote Originally Posted by disturkis4u View Post
    Actually tmo uses 1700 and is the only carrier in the US to that, which is why it won't work with at&t 3g. Most european countries use 2100 for 3g which is why it can still use 3g abroad if there's 2100

    +1 disturkis

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    Ok my bad, on the frequency bands, posting that early in the am is not good idea, but ditto to bbphreak and disturkis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 306buddyluv View Post
    @arek28

    Despite what you hear from your buds, Blaze is 110% correct. The same goes with the Bold 9000 and the Storms. Their 3G are network specific, meaning their 3G will only work on the network the device was release too.

    And the same goes for all other 3G smartphones in the market; except for one phone. I don't recall its name. But it was design to work on all non CDMA 3G network. US, and Europe.
    Hey Buddy.. I'd have to disagree with what you said, cause i'm using a Rogers bold on an Indonesian carrier....

    Quote Originally Posted by disturkis4u View Post
    Actually tmo uses 1700 and is the only carrier in the US to that, which is why it won't work with at&t 3g. Most european countries use 2100 for 3g which is why it can still use 3g abroad if there's 2100
    I think what disturkis4u said makes more sense, as long as the local provider supports the frequencies the device is configured to have, the 3G should work...

    Here in Indonesia most of the BBs are overseas branded (CSL, AT&T, Rogers, T-Mobile, TIM, etc) as they are sold as BM units (black market, ie. not sold via providers).... so far most phones can use the 2G/3G networks in Indonesia...

    A couple of my friends are getting the T-Mobile 9700 today... I will personally check whether the 3G will work on the Indonesian cell networks..

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnepsa View Post
    These 2 are 100% right.. now if you want it to work 3g overseas dont by the xx30 or xx50 version of that phone..
    A friend of mine is using the Verizon Wireless 9630 (Tour), the 3G works here in Indonesia...

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    Right because its out of th country which is what we said you were talking bout getting edge with T-Mobile within the US.. and other american carriers. VZW handsets are supposed to work with the overseas gsm frequencies just not on the US ones like tmobile.
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    • 3G (HSDPA) compatible
    • UMTS: 2100/1900/850/800 MHz (Bands 1,2,5/6), 2100/1700/900 MHz (Bands 1,4,8)
    • GSM: 1900/1800/900/850 MHz
    • Quad-band support: GSM 850; GSM

    those are the speecs for the 9700 on wireless networks meaning it should work if the phone is unlocked anywhere with 3G or EDGE Coverage.


    3G on the Bold all depends on coverage of 3G

    1700 band is t-mobile and 1900 is AT&T so it has to work on 3G for both no doubt.

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    To verify that I'll try an att sim on my tmobile 9700
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    Quote Originally Posted by ealvnv View Post
    To verify that I'll try an att sim on my tmobile 9700
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    thats all you have to do let us know the results because the band information i got it from the blackberry website and ity even says it on the t-mobile website

    Band (frequency): 850 MHz;900 MHz;1800 MHz;1900 MHz;UMTS: Band IV (1700/2100)


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    Most Indonesian cellphone providers utilizes the 2100 MHz band for UMTS... which is why the T-Mobile 9700 (Band IV 1700/2100) will be able to get on the 3G network...

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    Guys, I'm using 9700 Tmobile unlock and I'm in indonesian,My 3G work verry good,because all of indonesian provider use 2100mhz for 3G..thx
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