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    BBSAK New Versions

    Is it just me or have the newest versions of BSSAK gotten too complicated?

    The nice thing about the early releases were the simplicity....so much easier to use than BB Desktop Manager and great for backing up apps...

    I made the mistake of updating to the newest version (1.7) from a very early (1.2?) version....why in the world does BBSAK now have to put a file on your device? I may be misunderstanding the purpose, but now when you restore your backupped apps a BBSAK "app" is also loaded on your device. If you then go to "Applications" on your Storm the individual apps don't show up, just the BBSAK app....you then click on that to see your apps and adjust permissions, etc. The main problem I have is that while you can adjust permissions, you CANNOT delete the individual apps....It has always been my understanding that this is where you are supposed to delete apps properly....Unless I'm doing something wrong, I don't think you can do this using the new BBSAK backups....

    It's always nice to see software/apps evolve and give the user more options, but in this case losing the simplicity of BBSAK is not good...

    Again, if I'm doing something wrong please correct me....
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    Quote Originally Posted by C6StingRay View Post
    Is it just me or have the newest versions of BSSAK gotten too complicated?

    The nice thing about the early releases were the simplicity....so much easier to use than BB Desktop Manager and great for backing up apps...
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    I made the mistake of updating to the newest version (1.7) from a very early (1.2?) version....why in the world does BBSAK now have to put a file on your device? I may be misunderstanding the purpose, but now when you restore your backupped apps a BBSAK "app" is also loaded on your device. If you then go to "Applications" on your Storm the individual apps don't show up, just the BBSAK app....you then click on that to see your apps and adjust permissions, etc. The main problem I have is that while you can adjust permissions, you CANNOT delete the individual apps....It has always been my understanding that this is where you are supposed to delete apps properly....Unless I'm doing something wrong, I don't think you can do this using the new BBSAK backups....


    It's always nice to see software/apps evolve and give the user more options, but in this case losing the simplicity of BBSAK is not good...


    Again, if I'm doing something wrong please correct me....


    I don't believe you are doing anything wrong. I had the same issue. My workaround was to temporarily move the 'backup.alx' and backup.jad' files to my desktop and then used the Install COD option in BBSAK to load the COD files. With this version you can select all the COD files and don't have to load them individually.
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    hey guys,

    just wanted to jump in and explain how bbsak works now that we have updated to version 1.7



    1st i would like to start off by saying there has only been 1 minor change from version 1.2 to version 1.7 when it comes to backing up and restoring applications.

    with bbsak 1.2 the restore option simply installed all the cods for you and the applications never showed up in the applications menu on your blackberry device (where you now see bbsak backup), this forced the user to use bbsak to uninstall applications, which is why we moved to a more sophisticated way of installing the apps.

    the way we recommend restoring you apps is using the backup alx file that is created by bbsak when using the "backup apps" feature. to install this you can either use the loader.exe (which i recommend if you install your apps during a new OS installation) or using bb desktop manager if you are simply restoring to factory defaults. this will load the apps so that all apps show in the applications menu and you will have the ability to change the permissions as needed.


    the reason we switched to a tabbed layout was to keep the simplicity of of bbsak 1.2 (same options on the front tab) while simultaneously allowing more advanced users to have the ability to manipulate single cods.


    if you have any questions or need any kind of assistance when using are app please feel free to contact me.


    another thing you may find very helpful is i have created 2 video tutorials (step by step walk throughs) of how to use each feature on the first 2 tabs in bbsak 1.7

    see them at RIMGeeks.com • View topic - How To Use BBSAKv1.6/7 Video!

    Jason
    Last edited by wowthatisrandom; 11-01-2009 at 08:58 PM.

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    Wirelessly posted

    I hate the new backup method. Not to mention every time I run bbsak its starts in a window that is to small to see all the options so I maximize but then its all weird. The program is not made for being maximized and doesn't fit the default window. This is on wwindows 7

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    Jason

    Thanks for the info, but I'm still puzzled as to how we are supposed to delete apps from our devices. It appears that using the new system we cannot go directly to "Applications" and delete the specific app, but must connect our device to a PC and use BBSAK to remove. Please correct if I misunderstood.

    I've already down-graded back to Version 1.2 and prefer that method.

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    let me see if i can explain how it works...

    so basically in order for your blackberry to see an application in the applications menu (for modification whehter its deletion or permissions) you need to load via Jad or Alx these files are what tell the phone where to put the information. The cod, or module, the actual software itself will still work without the jad or ALX but will not be seen in the applications menu.

    so basically the only way to modify apps would be to install the restore via the ALX that is created, using loader.exe or bbdm

    unforutantely javaloader does not let you install more than 1 jad simultaneously so there is no way for us to restore all the apps that way.

    the way 1.2 did it was by simply injecting all the cods for you, which u can do with the install cods button (version 1.7)
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    Updating apps

    I am trying to update an exsisting app that is in the back up file.
    after download it gives me an error saying that changing existing
    file will make bbsak backup file unuseable. i tried once and said ok
    and it wiped all third party apps off the phone.

    I watched videos. Am i correct in understanding that you have to
    remove back up file from phone and reload all apps seperately using the install cod button in bbsak ? And to get these files you would copy the files on desktop from backup file and paste them in install cod ?


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    To tell you the truth, I've always stuck to using DM's device switch wizard to back up my apps. It's how I've always done it and it always works for me. The latest version of BBSAK just seems to be causing more trouble for people. I'm not 100% how to get around the current issues with restoring a backup.

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    I have had no issue with restoring apps in BBSAK?

    I use the "Backup Apps" Function as usual. But when I need to restore my apps, I dont use the "Restore Apps" Function, I go over one tab, and use the "Install COD" Function.

    Now with BBSAK 1.7, we can select more than one .cod at once to install, making the process much faster. These .CODs are found in your BBSAK program folder under the most recent Backup file you've created.

    This re-installs all my old apps normally, without the "BBSAK App" associated with using the "Restore Apps" Button.

    I love BBSAK, its very simple to use

    Cheers

    Corey
    Last edited by Corey Darling; 11-08-2009 at 03:04 PM.

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