Does the BlackBerry 10 delay launch to Q1 of 2013 affect your loyalty to RIM?

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    Does the BlackBerry 10 delay launch to Q1 of 2013 affect your loyalty to RIM?

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    On the tail of the bad news today via RIM's earnings call that we won't see BlackBerry 10 till at least Q1 of 2013, we are asking you as a BlackBerry user, does this affect your loyalty to RIM? Vote in the poll above!
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    As BB site owners/operaters- a user too, does/will it affect your loyalty in any way?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curve9370 View Post
    As BB site owners/operaters- a user too, does/will it affect your loyalty in any way?
    Haha, nothing will ever taint my loyalty to RIM. They have always treated me good, and I have too many friends within the company. However, it does make me doubt more than ever what will become of them. 6 months longer is too much time to wait with just OS 7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Jerde View Post
    Haha, nothing will ever taint my loyalty to RIM. They have always treated me good, and I have too many friends within the company. However, it does make me doubt more than ever what will become of them. 6 months longer is too much time to wait with just OS 7.
    That's good to hear on it not tainting your loyalty to RIM. I feel the same way you do from that perspective. I wonder what will happen to them as well, I fear they will be sold or bought out. I think they should go private. If you ever visit Crackberry read the comments about this news, lot of ppl, loyal users are going to jumpship now, within their rights to do so if they choose. But in my opinion that's not true loyalty.

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    Have to wonder if once BB10 is launched and hopefully successful, will Blackberry still be relevant in the smartphone world?

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    I read that article. I think it's a bit fanboyish sounding, which is nothing wrong with that. But it doesn't address a lot of aspects that will be difficult for RIM, ie. such as how RIM is going to be handling the developer blowback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Jerde View Post
    I read that article. I think it's a bit fanboyish sounding, which is nothing wrong with that. But it doesn't address a lot of aspects that will be difficult for RIM, ie. such as how RIM is going to be handling the developer blowback.
    That was also a concern for me too Joe, BlackBerry developers will be looking for guidance and answers since the BlackBerry 10 has been delayed to Q1 2013.

    Thank you.

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    I am thrilled with my BB and although disappointed with the delay, I think they are trying to redefine their market and find their place.
    They need to merge quickly with another player that has a connection with the new realities of todays market. Read google or Microshaft.
    I should have shorted their stock when I had the chance.

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    I'm still with Blackberry . . .

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    The waiting for BB10 is the hardest part now... Not only for RIM, but also for us. But I'm still with RIM and I hope that BB10 will be so good as they are saying it everyday. :-)

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    Still with BlackBerry,

    Yes I know developers wanted to make some money with BlackBerry 10 in Q4 but that plan has been put on hold just a while longer.

    This is important for RIM. They aren't launching a product, more so it's a platform. The BlackBerry OS platform came to the world in 2000. It's now 2012 and RIM has released a few new Curve's, but their last true multiple devices launch/product line refresh was in 2011. 11 years.

    Let us take that in. 11 years. The high school I graduated out of in 2011 is not even 11 years old. Heck the neighbourhood I live in for the most part is a bit younger than that. For a mobile communications technology corporation to use the same base for 11 years is pretty much unheard of in the tech world when obsolescence occurs even before a product hits the shelves.

    BlackBerry 10 and the QNX operating system is designed to power RIM devices for the next 10 years, considering QNX is scalable and so versatile if sometime said to me that it's good for the next 15-20 years of mobile computing for RIM, I would believe it because when you look at QNX for what it's really worth, you begin to realize RIM made a damn good acquisition.

    We need another Curve 8300 launch at this point. Back in 2007 when the BlackBerry Curve 8300 series launched it was a huge hit. This thing even outsold the iPhone. Mind you this was in 2009, when the Curve 8300 series was around the 2 year mark of initial release. That's the kind of launch RIM needs to push this platform.

    Now they should REALLY avoid a PlayBook launch. When the PlayBook launched in 2011 it was a powerhouse, it still is even by today's standards (Considering it's been over a year, that's very impressive in the tech world). It had the hardware, dual core processor, great screen, not just the PPI, but the actual quality of the screen and how well it displayed colours. RIM devices don't use fancy Super AMOLED technology or IPS displays, by today's standards they use "outdated" technology. The TFT LCD. Now interestingly enough I've tested out many many different smartphones and tablets with various kinds of displays. RIM devices are also pretty much at the top or near the top in terms of my judgement. The technology is much simpler than an IPS display but for it to have the incredible viewing angles, just like an IPS display just blows my mind every time. Going back to the PlayBook launch, the stereo microphones, dual core processor, dual FULL HD 1080p camera, 3 MP front camera, which STILL is the highest res front camera both in MP count and video resolution to date. GPS, bluetooth, WiFi a/b/g/n, FM Radio built in (No app supporting it yet, all apps are using internet radio and therefore need WiFi or BlackBerry Bridge connectivity), and what I'm getting to is that it was a beast of a tablet. Yet because core functionality was missing in the operating system, it sadly did not sell as well as we would have hoped. Don't get me wrong, I love my PlayBook and hands down I would take it over ANY tablet ANY DAY. But at launch, it didn't have PlayBook OS 2.0 for PIM apps, android app support and so on. Hence why it didn't do well.

    So in short, a "PlayBook" launch is having the killer specs to match and rise above the competition but having software deficiencies which totally screw up your sales numbers and leave you wondering what went wrong. Heck even the PlayBook design was very functional. (personally I also think it looks pretty darn good but hey not everyone will agree. Although we can all agree the button layouts and ports on the bottom were well placed and thought out.)


    They are launching a platform which is what RIM will use to power their devices, smartphone and tablet, for the next 10 years (at least). They have the time, they need to get it right. Now is not the time for another PlayBook launch, now is the time for a Curve 8300 launch.
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    Good points, Goku. Thanks for sharing.

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    I will definitely stay. Blackberry is not just a phone, it's a family.
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    I totally agree, BB is not just toy, a game player, it's a professional tool, a family private community.

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