Thread: Hybrid vs wait-for-Verizon

Hey, I've had my Storm for 4mos now and am about ready to "take the plunge" to "power user" and do a hybrid OS upgrade. That said, I keep reading that an OS upgrade (from version .75) is coming soon and I was curious about the following:

1. are the hybrids such a huge improvement over the canned OS that it's worth upgrading even if a new-and-improved OS comes out in the next few days?

2. if I upgrade to a hybrid, is it hard to go from that OS to any subsequent canned upgrades released by Verizon/RIM?

TIA.

Hi snmemx and welcome to BBOS!

To answer your questions..

1. If you've never upgraded from the original OS all i have to say is...What are you waiting for!! Its a MUCH improvement in basically every aspect of the phone. Speed, feature, memory management etc...

Theres a lot of talk about "official OS" coming out but its been like this for a few months.
So I guess you take it as you hear it.

2. Downgrading and Upgrading is quite easy. You wont have any issue installing any official OS if you have a Hybrid or a leaked OS.

Originally Posted by pupp3t

Hi snmemx and welcome to BBOS!

To answer your questions..

1. If you've never upgraded from the original OS all i have to say is...What are you waiting for!! Its a MUCH improvement in basically every aspect of the phone. Speed, feature, memory management etc...

Theres a lot of talk about "official OS" coming out but its been like this for a few months.
So I guess you take it as you hear it.

2. Downgrading and Upgrading is quite easy. You wont have any issue installing any official OS if you have a Hybrid or a leaked OS.

Thanks pupp3t, not sure why I've been hesitant to mess with it, but it's never too late to learn.

Ok, so I've got a couple of other quick questions then:

1. I'm running a BES with my Storm and I haven't seen many comments on here (or elsewhere) talking about using a hybrid OS w. a BES...should that be ok or are does it complicate things a bunch?

2. from a security standpoint, does a person sacrifice any security when running a hybrid. What I mean by that is, is it possible that a hybrid OS could have imbedded code that transmits personal data while a Storm is used for such things as reading emails or transmitting personal data over the internet? Given what appears to be a huge community of hybrid OS users, I'm just curious how the "collective" addresses this potential issue...or if it even is an issue. I'm nowhere close to tech savvy on the programming side so this may be a stupid question...please accept my apology if that's the case.

Originally Posted by snmemx

Thanks pupp3t, not sure why I've been hesitant to mess with it, but it's never too late to learn.

Ok, so I've got a couple of other quick questions then:

1. I'm running a BES with my Storm and I haven't seen many comments on here (or elsewhere) talking about using a hybrid OS w. a BES...should that be ok or are does it complicate things a bunch?

2. from a security standpoint, does a person sacrifice any security when running a hybrid. What I mean by that is, is it possible that a hybrid OS could have imbedded code that transmits personal data while a Storm is used for such things as reading emails or transmitting personal data over the internet? Given what appears to be a huge community of hybrid OS users, I'm just curious how the "collective" addresses this potential issue...or if it even is an issue. I'm nowhere close to tech savvy on the programming side so this may be a stupid question...please accept my apology if that's the case.

1. I'm running BES as well. I had to reactivate with my BES after applying this Hybrid but I'm also a BES admin so that's not really an issue. You will have to contact whoever supports your BES and have them reset your activation password.

2. I don't see why this would be an issue unless BBCrackman is really an NSA Agent

Originally Posted by snmemx

Thanks pupp3t, not sure why I've been hesitant to mess with it, but it's never too late to learn.

Ok, so I've got a couple of other quick questions then:

1. I'm running a BES with my Storm and I haven't seen many comments on here (or elsewhere) talking about using a hybrid OS w. a BES...should that be ok or are does it complicate things a bunch?

2. from a security standpoint, does a person sacrifice any security when running a hybrid. What I mean by that is, is it possible that a hybrid OS could have imbedded code that transmits personal data while a Storm is used for such things as reading emails or transmitting personal data over the internet? Given what appears to be a huge community of hybrid OS users, I'm just curious how the "collective" addresses this potential issue...or if it even is an issue. I'm nowhere close to tech savvy on the programming side so this may be a stupid question...please accept my apology if that's the case.

Running BES is not an issue, I too like Klypr am on BES, only difference is I have to resync my account everytime I load an OS (and that is quiet a lot)

You DO NOT sacrifice any sercurity going with a Hybrid, all files used are signed by RIM. They are official RIM releases. No apology is necessary and we are here to help with any questions you may have.

Originally Posted by bbcrackman

Running BES is not an issue, I too like Klypr am on BES, only difference is I have to resync my account everytime I load an OS (and that is quiet a lot)

You DO NOT sacrifice any sercurity going with a Hybrid, all files used are signed by RIM. They are official RIM releases. No apology is necessary and we are here to help with any questions you may have.

Excellent! Thanks again. Ok, so one last question, then I take the plunge:

1. Will I need to wipe the device after installing and if so, does the backup to Blackberry's desktop manager software preserve all my settings (even those related to the BES)?

Originally Posted by snmemx

Excellent! Thanks again. Ok, so one last question, then I take the plunge:

1. Will I need to wipe the device after installing and if so, does the backup to Blackberry's desktop manager software preserve all my settings (even those related to the BES)?

You don't need to wipe your device if you follow the directions but some cases it's a last resort if things don't go correctly. The Backup through DM does preserve some settings and your BES preserves some as well. Also, the update may reactivate with BES automatically but there is a chance you will have to do it manually. In my experience, (which happens to be quite a bit) sometimes it does and sometimes it does not.

Ok...so now the silly question I forgot to ask at the beginning...is there a place on the website where I go to get the latest/greatest hybrid version to begin the process?

Thanks again!!!

Originally Posted by snmemx

Ok...so now the silly question I forgot to ask at the beginning...is there a place on the website where I go to get the latest/greatest hybrid version to begin the process?

Thanks again!!!

http://www.brettwyman.com/blackberry/hybrid/hybrid3.zip <-- lastest Hybrid

You will need to d/l the .114 OS and patch the hybrid to it. All the info is in the readme.txt file in the zip file.

Originally Posted by Shrt Bus

http://www.brettwyman.com/blackberry/hybrid/hybrid3.zip <-- lastest Hybrid

You will need to d/l the .114 OS and patch the hybrid to it. All the info is in the readme.txt file in the zip file.

I'm attempting to install and Hybrid v3 and have done the steps up to double-clicking on the loader.exe program. When I do that, the loader runs but it doesn't ask if I want to downgrade, rather it goes straight to the "Device Application Selection" page where it lists a bunch of languages for support. Did I miss the option to "downgrade" somewhere or does that come later? TIA

You will ONLY get the downgrade if you have V2 installed. Since you havent done this yet..still on OS .75 you shouldnt get the downgrade question.

Well, my OS now shows .114 platform 144, which means it worked. Started at 45mb memory...launched a few news apps and still at 44.3mb which is great.

One question I still have relates to weatherbug...I launched it and it seems to have problems locating where I am. I didn't change any settings on my Storm so I'm not sure if there are any known glitches b/t v3 and weatherbug.

Thanks again for all the help today...so far, the hybrid was a great decision...now why didn't I do it sooner???

I too have Weatherbug installed i am a big believer in not having Weatherbug find my location but setting a local location, (ADD LOCATION) put in you're zip code find a tower close to you set it as you're location then go to preferences, turn off my location and set it to configure every 2 or 4 hours, much less use on you're battery and memory. A big plus is it's not running in the background.