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    Quote Originally Posted by Kill3r.Conc3ptz View Post
    Wow... is RIM ever going to get this right??
    Yes. These are only beta versions. They aren't intended for the general public so it's not surprising that there are some problems.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Kill3r.Conc3ptz View Post
    Wow... is RIM ever going to get this right??
    These are internal developments, meaning not meant to be used by the general consumer. Take 191 for example, they may have been trying to maximize memory and purposely disabled the camera for those tests. So it's not will RIM ever get it right, its finding the right Beta to leak as they will have some issue or another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlevy73 View Post
    These are internal developments, meaning not meant to be used by the general consumer. Take 191 for example, they may have been trying to maximize memory and purposely disabled the camera for those tests. So it's not will RIM ever get it right, its finding the right Beta to leak as they will have some issue or another.
    See, it's things like this that reinforce the idea that leaks are not necessarily a good thing. For those of us savvy enough to understand the differences between alpha/beta/release candidate/production software, the leaks are awesome, as very few of us would expect anything other than an RC or RTM to actually be fully functional.

    However, for those of us that may be a little bit less savvy, some of these builds would make it appear that RIM is doing something incorrectly.

    Basically, if the leaked OS was meant to actually be tested with a carrier for release, it will be basically fully functional. Otherwise, features are likely to be missing or not work correctly.



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    Quote Originally Posted by jlevy73 View Post
    These are internal developments, meaning not meant to be used by the general consumer. Take 191 for example, they may have been trying to maximize memory and purposely disabled the camera for those tests. So it's not will RIM ever get it right, its finding the right Beta to leak as they will have some issue or another.
    Thanks for the clarification on that J. I appreciate that.

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    Well said Dave, I agree with you 100%



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    Quote Originally Posted by jlevy73 View Post
    These are internal developments, meaning not meant to be used by the general consumer. Take 191 for example, they may have been trying to maximize memory and purposely disabled the camera for those tests. So it's not will RIM ever get it right, its finding the right Beta to leak as they will have some issue or another.
    Oh, I understand fully. I think my comment was more out of frustration than anything else. I just feel that one year into product development, the OS should be optimized. But I do know how these things work; that was a pretty silly comment from me. I'm glad you guys were pretty clear on that though, as many people do not understand. On another note, I thought carrier's were the only one's that tested the software?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kill3r.Conc3ptz View Post
    I thought carrier's were the only one's that tested the software?
    i don"t know all the details but RIM has internal testers that work on the os's before they are released to the carriers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlevy73 View Post
    Is it the browser that is the main issue with 5.0 and Telus?
    Yes, the browser is the main issue with the 5.0 builds. On .140 I had to do the AT&T service books to fix it. But that caused media player problems.
    On .191 the AT&T service books do not fix the issue, but at least my WAP browser works.

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