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    olta777 is offline BlackBerryOS Wizard
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    Toytooii, here is the thread that Lou was referring to: http://www.blackberryos.com/forums/9...0-0-140-a.html

    Even when you wipe the OS, there is still something that's left on phone (don't know exact term for it...core of OS??) and I guess that what's left, gives the flick scrolling, etc. .191 is a beautiful build with a crippled camera, so many people have attempted to fix it in various ways...so far this has been the only way to have some of .191 features yet a working camera.



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    Quote Originally Posted by olta777 View Post
    Toytooii, here is the thread that Lou was referring to: http://www.blackberryos.com/forums/9...0-0-140-a.html

    Even when you wipe the OS, there is still something that's left on phone (don't know exact term for it...core of OS??) and I guess that what's left, gives the flick scrolling, etc. .191 is a beautiful build with a crippled camera, so many people have attempted to fix it in various ways...so far this has been the only way to have some of .191 features yet a working camera.
    Olta. thanks for the info. I'm wondering if in fact it's necessary to wipe the device after installing .191. Loading the loader file that gets created from 140, the 191 radio and the fixes should load over (downgrade) what's already on the phone. Just guessing here...worth a try. Have you tried this (with the wipe as described) and gotten the desired result?

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    Quote Originally Posted by toytooii View Post
    Olta. thanks for the info. I'm wondering if in fact it's necessary to wipe the device after installing .191. Loading the loader file that gets created from 140, the 191 radio and the fixes should load over (downgrade) what's already on the phone. Just guessing here...worth a try. Have you tried this (with the wipe as described) and gotten the desired result?
    I have not tried this combination yet, as I am at work right now (and my main reason is I don't want to lose ANY .191 features)...but I can tell you for sure that Loader.exe wipes...When I was loading .191, my PC was slow and the process was slow so I saw with my own eyes the "Reload Software 507" for like 10 seconds....and I never wipe, so that was my confirmation. I do not have a couple devices to test side by side, but I know hybrid makers recommend wiping. One wipe I do suggest is the security wipe after you load the OS to phone but before the restore. I have read numerous times, that security wipe eliminates corrupt pieces of OS. Keep us posted on what process you choose and your results. Good luck.



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    Quote Originally Posted by toytooii View Post
    yes, I know wiping works and I routinely do that before loading a new OS onto the device. But in this case, it seems there might be a good reason NOT to do it after installing .191 on the device....following it with that .140/191radio/and 2 fixes as described. I'm just speculating.
    Anyway, I'm not anxious to try this particular one since my device is really running nicely on BBCM V.8.5. All my previous attempts with the various leaks of 5.0 have been met with disappointment...hopefully, a solid 5.0 OS will arise for the Storm (9530) sooner rather than later.
    It totally makes sense what you are saying...I think some people just have a habbit of wiping everytime and I am too lazy to do it and I know Loader does it, so I pass. Also, just a live witness for you....191 is a rock solid build (with exception of camera), I would encourage you to try it alone (non-hybridized) just so you could try out the features. I absolutely love them and that's why I am very hesitant to try any other OS/hybrids/combinations.

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    In regards to the directions, I believe Lou was experimenting to see if he could make camera work, and I know he usually wipes with every OS change. He may have a better reason....but like I mentioned, it's a habbit for many people.



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    Quote Originally Posted by olta777 View Post
    It totally makes sense what you are saying...I think some people just have a habbit of wiping everytime and I am too lazy to do it and I know Loader does it, so I pass. Also, just a live witness for you....191 is a rock solid build (with exception of camera), I would encourage you to try it alone (non-hybridized) just so you could try out the features. I absolutely love them and that's why I am very hesitant to try any other OS/hybrids/combinations.
    yes, I know wiping works and I routinely do that before loading a new OS onto the device. But in this case, it seems there might be a good reason NOT to do it after installing .191 on the device....following it with that .140/191radio/and 2 fixes as described. I'm just speculating.
    Anyway, I'm not anxious to try this particular one since my device is really running nicely on BBCM V.8.5. All my previous attempts with the various leaks of 5.0 have been met with disappointment...hopefully, a solid 5.0 OS will arise for the Storm (9530) sooner rather than later.

    EDIT - I think I found the confusion. Here are the directions as posted by BRYAN in the link you provided. They DO NOT call for a wipe of the device after installing .191 to it....this makes a lot more sense.
    08-29-2009, 11:53 PM
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    Thanks Sezaro
    Here are the instructions on how they are doing it. Keep in mind that flick does not work in all menus and is choppy in some. Thanks to BritishTurbo and Paul for posting these up

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    I'm testing it now, but it seems this is how it works:

    1.) Install 5.0.0.191 on PC
    2.) Upgrade Storm to 5.0.0.191
    3.) Remove 5.0.0.191 from PC
    4.) Install 5.0.0.140 on PC
    5.) Downgrade Storm to 5.0.0.140


    After reboot should have working flick scroll on the 5.0.0.140...

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    Toytooii, have you tried plain .191? You might want to try it...I promise you will love it

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    Quote Originally Posted by olta777 View Post
    Toytooii, have you tried plain .191? You might want to try it...I promise you will love it
    I had it on the device for a day or two but really wanted the camera to function....I use it almost daily so I reverted back to BBCM 8.5 with BerryScroll. Other than the camera, were there other shortcomings to .191. Seems I recall a few other issues but I've tried so many, I've lost track.
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