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    Quote Originally Posted by toytooii View Post
    Seems a bit of the logic may be miscommunicated here. I don't think one can "downgrade" a device's operating system when there's no operating system after the wipe. Perhaps wiping the device is not the way to go after you've installed .191 on it? That way, when you put your .140 Os over it (with the .191 radio and the two fixes) you will get the opportunity to "downgrade" to lower version number. Anyway, maybe someone will figure it out. But, Lou, really appreciate the suggestions about this .140 with .191 radio combo. Thanks.
    If you instal 191 to the device and then wipe, and then if you go to install 140, loader will ask you whether you want to downgrade. A wipe does not delete all of the core apps from the device (otherwise, you would have no screen).

    However, and I cannot emphasize this enough, I DO NOT KNOW WHAT I AM DOING. I am haphazardly synthesizing ideas and findings of my own with those of others.


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    Quote Originally Posted by louwiid View Post
    If you instal 191 to the device and then wipe, and then if you go to install 140, loader will ask you whether you want to downgrade. A wipe does not delete all of the core apps from the device (otherwise, you would have no screen).

    However, and I cannot emphasize this enough, I DO NOT KNOW WHAT I AM DOING. I am haphazardly synthesizing ideas and findings of my own with those of others.
    Hi Louwiid,

    Essentially, if you have 140 already loaded, all you have to do is swap the sfi file for 191and then use loader. That should achieve the same thing. This seems to be the 191 radio with the 140 javas, correct?

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    anybody got a working link for .140? I wanna try this but I have tried downloading .140 from this site twice and when I go to unzip it says its unknown or damaged

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevealb View Post
    Hi Louwiid,

    Essentially, if you have 140 already loaded, all you have to do is swap the sfi file for 191and then use loader. That should achieve the same thing. This seems to be the 191 radio with the 140 javas, correct?
    If you want flick scrolling, I believe you need to load 191 first and then remove 191 and load 140. Otherwise, this is essentially 140 Java with 191 sfi.

    I suppose you could also load 191 and the overwrite the 140 Java into the 191 Java folder.

    Please let me know if you try either of the above variants. I would be interested to see how those work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by curtcrack88 View Post
    anybody got a working link for .140? I wanna try this but I have tried downloading .140 from this site twice and when I go to unzip it says its unknown or damaged
    RIM has sent cease and desist letters to sites such as BBOS with respect to 140, 191 and BBM 5. You may want to search megaupload or rapidshare.

    I have been saving OS files to SD cards as soon as they are leaked for this reason.
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    OP updated with results through this morning.
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    Hey lou,
    Couldn't you just install 140 and then use Shrink OS to swap to the 191 radio?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spidersweb View Post
    Hey lou,
    Couldn't you just install 140 and then use Shrink OS to swap to the 191 radio?
    I have been told by some that 191 is not an option for swapping via shrink, but I have not verified. Also, I believe you have to go up to 191 and then back down to 140 to get flick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by curtcrack88 View Post
    anybody got a working link for .140? I wanna try this but I have tried downloading .140 from this site twice and when I go to unzip it says its unknown or damaged
    Try this one

    5.0.0.140 Mega

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryan View Post
    Try this one

    5.0.0.140 Mega
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryan View Post
    Try this one

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    Quote Originally Posted by louwiid
    Quote Originally Posted by Spidersweb View Post
    Hey lou,
    Couldn't you just install 140 and then use Shrink OS to swap to the 191 radio?
    I have been told by some that 191 is not an option for swapping via shrink, but I have not verified. Also, I believe you have to go up to 191 and then back down to 140 to get flick.
    My Gynecologist is correct! Shrink doesn't like .191... I spent all weekend tearing 191 apart with no success... Lou has found the only way that I know of to get shrink to work. If trying to just swap the radio is the way you want to go... then you lose the flickscroll and the ability to shrink... I tried that also! Like I said, the Doc has the only way I know of to make this work! :fing02:

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    I keep receiving an error 300 message for the application. I have followed the directions exactly. I am replacing the 140 radio w/ 190 radio is that correct? or do I leave them in the CDMA folder together?
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    Ive got app error 200...cant do a damn thing on my phone..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seanren78 View Post
    I keep receiving an error 300 message for the application. I have followed the directions exactly. I am replacing the 140 radio w/ 190 radio is that correct? or do I leave them in the CDMA folder together?
    Copy the 191 sfi from your saved location (hard drive). Open the 140 CDMA folder. Paste the 191 sfi into the CDMA folder. Click "YES" when asked to replace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by louwiid View Post
    Copy the 191 sfi from your saved location (hard drive). Open the 140 CDMA folder. Paste the 191 sfi into the CDMA folder. Click "YES" when asked to replace.
    I am stuck then....I've have done this 3 times....guess I am not Doctor enough to complete this easy process.
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    when i tried i got error 200 reset did i do something wrong cause i followed the directions down to a t

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    App Loader Not seeing Radio Swap after copy and paste

    Quote Originally Posted by louwiid View Post
    Copy the 191 sfi from your saved location (hard drive). Open the 140 CDMA folder. Paste the 191 sfi into the CDMA folder. Click "YES" when asked to replace.
    I have copied the .sfi from 191 and pasted it into the 140 CDMA folder okay. Now when i run app loader it does not see anything and i have deleted the Vendor file. Any ideas?

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    well mine is working now...even tho i was late for work cuz of this lol..i just need to put bbm 5.0 back on now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seanren78 View Post
    I am stuck then....I've have done this 3 times....guess I am not Doctor enough to complete this easy process.
    Remember, this could be a case of device differences, as stupid as that may be.

    Did you super-wipe before starting? I did a wipe and device reset via BBSAK before the first load of 191.
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