Thread: 140/191 Home Brew

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Originally Posted by jasonfyc

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Originally Posted by catstide

is this a closed beta?

Only my Brotha has the link for the Beta Testers and have excepted all requests at this time! We will be running atleast 3 threads for findings with 12 variations of the original unfixed beta. Versions!
What I really need to know is... Can we get some front page Love!

PLZ DO9.

Originally Posted by louwiid

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No on threaded SMS.

I have run four themes on this. It plays like 140 in almost every regard thus far.

Never ran 140...does this mean the themes and audible alerts worked?

Originally Posted by jnepsa

i had issues with themes on straight .191 vista complete by KD did not give alerts

I ran Vista complete until Friday, when I started beta testing 3 themes and had no problems what so ever!

Originally Posted by manofice

so it has threaded sms?

idk 140 didn't run good on my phone

no threaded mms and issues exist just like normal 140

Originally Posted by jlevy73

No but typically we close Lou's threads pretty quickly. Oh wait my bad Lou, sometimes I get you confused with Jason :laugh2:

That was a good one but Im not sure who was insulted hehe

I'm confused....
1. Install .191 and load to device. Really tricky thus far eh?

1.5. Save the .191 radio (.sfi file in the CDMA folder) to your hard drive.

2. Delete .191 from your computer and wipe your device (BBSAK; CrackUtil; whatevs).

Why install .191 on the device (Step 1) only to then wipe the device in Step 2? Could it just start out with a wiped device?

Originally Posted by toytooii

I'm confused....
1. Install .191 and load to device. Really tricky thus far eh?

1.5. Save the .191 radio (.sfi file in the CDMA folder) to your hard drive.

2. Delete .191 from your computer and wipe your device (BBSAK; CrackUtil; whatevs).

Why install .191 on the device (Step 1) only to then wipe the device in Step 2? Could it just start out with a wiped device?

Again, I have no idea what I am doing. I am just repeating what i did. If you are looking for knowledgeable guidance, we're fresh out here; been that way since '78.

Per the TBZ thread by paul and BritishTurbo, you need to get 191 on the device and then downgrade to get flick on 140.

I encourage you and everyone else to try different approaches and share your methodology and findings. My process is anything but scientific.

Good luck, and good night!

Originally Posted by louwiid

Again, I have no idea what I am doing. I am just repeating what i did. If you are looking for knowledgeable guidance, we're fresh out here; been that way since '78.

Per the TBZ thread by paul and BritishTurbo, you need to get 191 on the device and then downgrade to get flick on 140.

I encourage you and everyone else to try different approaches and share your methodology and findings. My process is anything but scientific.

Good luck, and good night!

Seems a bit of the logic may be miscommunicated here. I don't think one can "downgrade" a device's operating system when there's no operating system after the wipe. Perhaps wiping the device is not the way to go after you've installed .191 on it? That way, when you put your .140 Os over it (with the .191 radio and the two fixes) you will get the opportunity to "downgrade" to lower version number. Anyway, maybe someone will figure it out. But, Lou, really appreciate the suggestions about this .140 with .191 radio combo. Thanks.

Toytooii, here is the thread that Lou was referring to: http://www.blackberryos.com/forums/9...0-0-140-a.html

Even when you wipe the OS, there is still something that's left on phone (don't know exact term for it...core of OS??) and I guess that what's left, gives the flick scrolling, etc. .191 is a beautiful build with a crippled camera, so many people have attempted to fix it in various ways...so far this has been the only way to have some of .191 features yet a working camera.

Originally Posted by olta777

Toytooii, here is the thread that Lou was referring to: http://www.blackberryos.com/forums/9...0-0-140-a.html

Even when you wipe the OS, there is still something that's left on phone (don't know exact term for it...core of OS??) and I guess that what's left, gives the flick scrolling, etc. .191 is a beautiful build with a crippled camera, so many people have attempted to fix it in various ways...so far this has been the only way to have some of .191 features yet a working camera.

Olta. thanks for the info. I'm wondering if in fact it's necessary to wipe the device after installing .191. Loading the loader file that gets created from 140, the 191 radio and the fixes should load over (downgrade) what's already on the phone. Just guessing here...worth a try. Have you tried this (with the wipe as described) and gotten the desired result?

Originally Posted by toytooii

Olta. thanks for the info. I'm wondering if in fact it's necessary to wipe the device after installing .191. Loading the loader file that gets created from 140, the 191 radio and the fixes should load over (downgrade) what's already on the phone. Just guessing here...worth a try. Have you tried this (with the wipe as described) and gotten the desired result?

I have not tried this combination yet, as I am at work right now (and my main reason is I don't want to lose ANY .191 features)...but I can tell you for sure that Loader.exe wipes...When I was loading .191, my PC was slow and the process was slow so I saw with my own eyes the "Reload Software 507" for like 10 seconds....and I never wipe, so that was my confirmation. I do not have a couple devices to test side by side, but I know hybrid makers recommend wiping. One wipe I do suggest is the security wipe after you load the OS to phone but before the restore. I have read numerous times, that security wipe eliminates corrupt pieces of OS. Keep us posted on what process you choose and your results. Good luck.

Originally Posted by toytooii

yes, I know wiping works and I routinely do that before loading a new OS onto the device. But in this case, it seems there might be a good reason NOT to do it after installing .191 on the device....following it with that .140/191radio/and 2 fixes as described. I'm just speculating.
Anyway, I'm not anxious to try this particular one since my device is really running nicely on BBCM V.8.5. All my previous attempts with the various leaks of 5.0 have been met with disappointment...hopefully, a solid 5.0 OS will arise for the Storm (9530) sooner rather than later.

It totally makes sense what you are saying...I think some people just have a habbit of wiping everytime and I am too lazy to do it and I know Loader does it, so I pass. Also, just a live witness for you....191 is a rock solid build (with exception of camera), I would encourage you to try it alone (non-hybridized) just so you could try out the features. I absolutely love them and that's why I am very hesitant to try any other OS/hybrids/combinations.

In regards to the directions, I believe Lou was experimenting to see if he could make camera work, and I know he usually wipes with every OS change. He may have a better reason....but like I mentioned, it's a habbit for many people.

Originally Posted by olta777

It totally makes sense what you are saying...I think some people just have a habbit of wiping everytime and I am too lazy to do it and I know Loader does it, so I pass. Also, just a live witness for you....191 is a rock solid build (with exception of camera), I would encourage you to try it alone (non-hybridized) just so you could try out the features. I absolutely love them and that's why I am very hesitant to try any other OS/hybrids/combinations.

yes, I know wiping works and I routinely do that before loading a new OS onto the device. But in this case, it seems there might be a good reason NOT to do it after installing .191 on the device....following it with that .140/191radio/and 2 fixes as described. I'm just speculating.
Anyway, I'm not anxious to try this particular one since my device is really running nicely on BBCM V.8.5. All my previous attempts with the various leaks of 5.0 have been met with disappointment...hopefully, a solid 5.0 OS will arise for the Storm (9530) sooner rather than later.

EDIT - I think I found the confusion. Here are the directions as posted by BRYAN in the link you provided. They DO NOT call for a wipe of the device after installing .191 to it....this makes a lot more sense.
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Thanks Sezaro
Here are the instructions on how they are doing it. Keep in mind that flick does not work in all menus and is choppy in some. Thanks to BritishTurbo and Paul for posting these up

Quote:
I'm testing it now, but it seems this is how it works:

1.) Install 5.0.0.191 on PC
2.) Upgrade Storm to 5.0.0.191
3.) Remove 5.0.0.191 from PC
4.) Install 5.0.0.140 on PC
5.) Downgrade Storm to 5.0.0.140

After reboot should have working flick scroll on the 5.0.0.140...

Toytooii, have you tried plain .191? You might want to try it...I promise you will love it

Originally Posted by olta777

Toytooii, have you tried plain .191? You might want to try it...I promise you will love it

I had it on the device for a day or two but really wanted the camera to function....I use it almost daily so I reverted back to BBCM 8.5 with BerryScroll. Other than the camera, were there other shortcomings to .191. Seems I recall a few other issues but I've tried so many, I've lost track.

Originally Posted by toytooii

I had it on the device for a day or two but really wanted the camera to function....I use it almost daily so I reverted back to BBCM 8.5 with BerryScroll. Other than the camera, were there other shortcomings to .191. Seems I recall a few other issues but I've tried so many, I've lost track.

True...I haven't paid attention to minor issues, as compared to .140, they were almost non-existent. As far as camera, I would LOVE for it to work, but I can tolerate it non-working in hopes of a leak that would fix it.

Originally Posted by olta777

True...I haven't paid attention to minor issues, as compared to .140, they were almost non-existent. As far as camera, I would LOVE for it to work, but I can tolerate it non-working in hopes of a leak that would fix it.

If you try the suggested work around in this thread (Louwild), please let me know how it worked out. Time for this old geezer to go to sleep!

Originally Posted by toytooii

If you try the suggested work around in this thread (Louwild), please let me know how it worked out. Time for this old geezer to go to sleep!

Ok...good night. I may try it tomorrow and will definitely let you know.

Originally Posted by olta777

In regards to the directions, I believe Lou was experimenting to see if he could make camera work, and I know he usually wipes with every OS change. He may have a better reason....but like I mentioned, it's a habbit for many people.

To be honest, this came about on a whim. During my last reload of .191, my calendar did not sync properly, so I wiped my phone to all high hell before and after installing .191 (I did a wipe and a factory reset on BBSAK).

Olta is correct in that I have just gotten into the habit of wiping per BBC's, OOAKDPC's and lyricidal's indoctrination.