Thread: v8.5 findings and fixes

Originally Posted by jasonfyc

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Actually I think it just came to me what rfirmi did.... He dl .132 and laid v8.5 over it, then copied the files over... That's where you will see the missing files...

No, I was wrong, all of the files he listed were there. I think I need to install .132, copy and paste that one file somewhere else, then delete and install .151 and do the same with those files, then put v8 over top and swap the above mentioned files with the ones I copied. Then I will shrink and swap the radio and then wipe and reload...... .... man I'm worn out just typing this!!

Successfully reinstalled v8.5 with .132 radio! Thanks everyone for your help! My sanity (and Direct TCP connection) is back!!!!
:dance::banana::hail:

Originally Posted by tank244

AMEN --- damn Viigo --- its been out how long now and its still in beta? ha
Ill de chk the event log -- Ill have to google how to do that, forgot the key strokes, ha. Thanks for the help --- Ill delete Viigo now and reboot and see what happens. Thanks! :laugh2::laugh2:

Viigo is great but it does kill memory Due to the size of it (1.4mb) and also the fact that it caches articles in your phone. that is how it retrieves them so fast. I deleted bb maps and just use google maps it is just a lot more functional.

Originally Posted by TommyGrubz

Originally Posted by rfirmi
hello dude, I got v8.5 to work with .132 but u have to change a couple files back to .151 and .132

From .151
net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine.cod
net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine_bundle.cod
net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine_pme02.cod
net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine_smil_00.cod
net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine_smil_format.cod
net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine_smil_mms.cod
net_rim_plazmic_themereader.cod
net_rim_theme_precision_zen_360x480_t.cod

From .132
net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine_pme12.cod

Also don't forget to change ur radio to .132 lol
Know that you will no longer have the clock and connection buttons on your home screen.... enjoy the workings of bbc!

Someone HAS to know SOMETHING about this! Just got of the phone again with VZW and they told me that they simply cannot help me and that RIM won't even take my call now because I have 3rd party apps installed on the phone.
:damnit::banghead: That's so crazy that two big companies like VZW and RIM will refuse to help or just leave their customers hanging like that!

I see you have already gotten v8.5 installed with the .132 radio...I was just gonna mention for anyone else that was gonna do that...The .cod's that rfirmi listed above are already there in v8.5 but they all come from .167 (except for net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine_smil_format.cod which is from 5.0.0.140), they need to be switched out to the .151 and .132 .cod's as listed and then swap the radio with .132....otherwise you get a brick.

Originally Posted by rfirmi

hello dude, I got v8.5 to work with .132 but u have to change a couple files back to .151 and .132

From .151
net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine.cod
net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine_bundle.cod
net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine_pme02.cod
net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine_smil_00.cod
net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine_smil_format.cod
net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine_smil_mms.cod
net_rim_plazmic_themereader.cod
net_rim_theme_precision_zen_360x480_t.cod

From .132
net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine_pme12.cod

Also don't forget to change ur radio to .132 lol
Know that you will no longer have the clock and connection buttons on your home screen.... enjoy the workings of bbc!

Originally Posted by TommyGrubz

Okay so I'm looking at this as my possible solution. Thing is I'm not 100% sure how to do this. Looking in my Java folder I already have these .151 files, just not the .132 file. Anyone familiar with this? Are there any big issues with .132 radio? I'll do some more searching but if anyone knows off the top of their head I'd appreciate it! Thanks everyone!

Would the same basic outline work if you wanted to use it with the .148 radio... take the .151 files, and the same file that you would have taken from .132, but just the .148 version?

Originally Posted by sandman1987

I see you have already gotten v8.5 installed with the .132 radio...I was just gonna mention for anyone else that was gonna do that...The .cod's that rfirmi listed above are already there in v8.5 but they all come from .167 (except for net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine_smil_format.cod which is from 5.0.0.140), they need to be switched out to the .151 and .132 .cod's as listed and then swap the radio with .132....otherwise you get a brick.

Thanks for explaining that. That is what had me confused at first since I've never paid any attention to the insides of the java folder before, but I figured it out

So in case anyone was wondering, I have been running v8.5 with the .132 radio for about 20 hrs now and everything is FANTASTIC. I still used .151 as the base OS. Only differences I see with .132 vs .151 radio on v8.5 are:
-5.0 transition from app list to home page is gone, but it's still there when closing apps.

-Button on clock and signal meter gone (but I use Natemz blak them so I still have that feature).

-Camera is still fast, but just a tiny hair slower than with .151 radio
Also, green focus box is gone.

-Memory stability is still there for me.

-Direct TCP!!!!! -- this is the biggest plus IMO. Direct TCP is so much faster than BIS-B so I will take that over the red stuff listed above any day. Pandora works for hours on end and ...

-Battery life is still good EDIT: I found after a few days that battery life was better with .151 radio - at first it was about the same :/

So, all in all I'm STOKED to be able to have v8.5 AND still have my speedy connection for all my apps. IMO if you have Verizon you should try it this way, otherwise your missing out on one of the things that makes VZW so much better than the cheaper alternatives.

First of all - thanks to BBCrackman for another wonderful Hybrid. I have only ever used your Hybrids (aint broke....) and 8.5 is my 3rd one. I was nervous to move to it as the last one I had installed was working so well. I have had 8.5 installed for about 36 hours now and am delighted with it. Well done and thanks for all your obvious hard work. It's clean, fast, great transitions, works well. It's awesome!!!

Secondly - thanks to all you posters. I am a heavy BB user, and a bit of a gadget freak but not a techy at all. If not for all you posters, I would never have tried the hybrid OS in the first place and would like be thinking my storm is nothing but a sexy looking clunky pain in the @#$. Yesterday I decided to take the "risk" and try my hand again at installing a hybrid (BBCrackmans 8.5). Before I did anything, I read through this entire list of findings, problems and suggested fixes that other users had found. I made sure to follow the steps exactly as listed but still managed to come up with a 507 Error. After a bit of a heart attack, trough further reading of the posts - I managed to find the solution to the issue and get 8.5 loaded, working, connected to BES and re-loaded with all previous apps!!! It was awesome.

Anyway - nothing but thanks to everybody on here. Great site, great contributors, great help. I am hooked.

Originally Posted by budman9

First of all - thanks to BBCrackman for another wonderful Hybrid. I have only ever used your Hybrids (aint broke....) and 8.5 is my 3rd one. I was nervous to move to it as the last one I had installed was working so well. I have had 8.5 installed for about 36 hours now and am delighted with it. Well done and thanks for all your obvious hard work. It's clean, fast, great transitions, works well. It's awesome!!!

Secondly - thanks to all you posters. I am a heavy BB user, and a bit of a gadget freak but not a techy at all. If not for all you posters, I would never have tried the hybrid OS in the first place and would like be thinking my storm is nothing but a sexy looking clunky pain in the @#$. Yesterday I decided to take the "risk" and try my hand again at installing a hybrid (BBCrackmans 8.5). Before I did anything, I read through this entire list of findings, problems and suggested fixes that other users had found. I made sure to follow the steps exactly as listed but still managed to come up with a 507 Error. After a bit of a heart attack, trough further reading of the posts - I managed to find the solution to the issue and get 8.5 loaded, working, connected to BES and re-loaded with all previous apps!!! It was awesome.

Anyway - nothing but thanks to everybody on here. Great site, great contributors, great help. I am hooked.

Just a little FYI for future reference: Every time you wipe your phone you will get the 507 error - this is good - it means there is no software on the phone (because you wiped it). All you do from there is load-up your new OS

Glad your hooked! Have fun comin back for more!!

I already installed v8.5 and like it alot however im a bit upset since pandora and slacker dont play too well with 151 and also im having trouble sending and receiving mms. would i be able to install 8.5 on top of the 148 installer?

Originally Posted by Italysfinest327

I already installed v8.5 and like it alot however im a bit upset since pandora and slacker dont play too well with 151 and also im having trouble sending and receiving mms. would i be able to install 8.5 on top of the 148 installer?

I don't know for sure, but I don't think that will work because the 8.5 will overwrite the files and replace them with the .151. Back a few posts in this thread Tommy did a swap and replaced the .151 radio with the radio from .132, and that seemed to work for him. There are others that have done it as well. You will have to change the .cod files that are listed in the posts above in order to get it to play nice with 8.5 though.

Originally Posted by Italysfinest327

I already installed v8.5 and like it alot however im a bit upset since pandora and slacker dont play too well with 151 and also im having trouble sending and receiving mms. would i be able to install 8.5 on top of the 148 installer?

Originally Posted by sandman1987

I don't know for sure, but I don't think that will work because the 8.5 will overwrite the files and replace them with the .151. Back a few posts in this thread Tommy did a swap and replaced the .151 radio with the radio from .132, and that seemed to work for him. There are others that have done it as well. You will have to change the .cod files that are listed in the posts above in order to get it to play nice with 8.5 though.

If you wanna try swapping the radio so Pandora and Slacker will work then I'll help you out if you have any questions. I did it a few days ago and everything is running GREAT for me!

But like sandman said, you gotta make sure you do it right or you'll end up with a brick! It's not hard though so let me know and I'll stick around for ya!

Originally Posted by TommyGrubz

If you wanna try swapping the radio so Pandora and Slacker will work then I'll help you out if you have any questions. I did it a few days ago and everything is running GREAT for me!

But like sandman said, you gotta make sure you do it right or you'll end up with a brick! It's not hard though so let me know and I'll stick around for ya!

If you dont mind helping me out id appreciate it. Im prob going to do it tomorrow but just wanted a heads up if anyone else did it. would i just have to install 132 installer and then install crackmans installer?

Originally Posted by Italysfinest327

If you dont mind helping me out id appreciate it. Im prob going to do it tomorrow but just wanted a heads up if anyone else did it. would i just have to install 132 installer and then install crackmans installer?

No, you only need one cod file out of .132. The hybrid is installed over .151

Here's what I did:

Download .132 and install to your PC. Go to c/ program files/ common files/ Research in Motion/ Shared/ Loader/ ....132 / Java

In the .132 java folder find net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine_pme12.cod , right click and copy this file, then put it in a new folder on your desktop.

Once you have this file copied, go ahead and delete .132 OS from your computer by going to control panel / addremove and delete it.

Download .151 OS and install to your PC. Find its java folder using the same path as above.

In the .151 java folder copy the following files and paste them in the folder you created with the .132 file in it (the one you just copied and pasted on your desktop):

net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine.cod
net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine_bundle.cod
net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine_pme02.cod
net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine_smil_00.cod
net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine_smil_format.cod
net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine_smil_mms.cod
net_rim_plazmic_themereader.cod
net_rim_theme_precision_zen_360x480_t.cod

Now go ahead and download v8.5 and install over .151 like normal.

Once this is done, go back into the java folder - same path as above - and delete the following files:

net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine_pme12.cod
net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine.cod
net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine_bundle.cod
net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine_pme02.cod
net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine_smil_00.cod
net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine_smil_format.cod
net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine_smil_mms.cod
net_rim_plazmic_themereader.cod
net_rim_theme_precision_zen_360x480_t.cod

Now open your new folder on the desktop and copy all the files in there and paste them in the java folder - they have the same names as the ones you just deleted, but are indeed different files.

NOW, go ahead and open Shrink-A-OS (I assume you know what this is and how to use it?) Select your OS and shrink if you like (I did),

Then, select your device from the drop down menu, then select the .132 radio from the other drop down.

Click "swap radio" button. Shrink will download and install the .132 radio.

Now go ahead and backup your device and apps, wipe your phone, and load the OS as usual! Don't forget to delete the vendor file and do your battery pulls and all that good stuff.

Have fun! Let me know if you have any more questions.

Originally Posted by TommyGrubz

No, you only need one cod file out of .132. The hybrid is installed over .151

Here's what I did:

Download .132 and install to your PC. Go to c/ program files/ common files/ Research in Motion/ Shared/ Loader/ ....132 / Java

In the .132 java folder find net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine_pme12.cod , right click and copy this file, then put it in a new folder on your desktop.

Once you have this file copied, go ahead and delete .132 OS from your computer by going to control panel / addremove and delete it.

Download .151 OS and install to your PC. Find its java folder using the same path as above.

In the .151 java folder copy the following files and paste them in the folder you created with the .132 file in it (the one you just copied and pasted on your desktop):

net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine.cod
net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine_bundle.cod
net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine_pme02.cod
net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine_smil_00.cod
net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine_smil_format.cod
net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine_smil_mms.cod
net_rim_plazmic_themereader.cod
net_rim_theme_precision_zen_360x480_t.cod

Now go ahead and download v8.5 and install over .151 like normal.

Once this is done, go back into the java folder - same path as above - and delete the following files:

net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine_pme12.cod
net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine.cod
net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine_bundle.cod
net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine_pme02.cod
net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine_smil_00.cod
net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine_smil_format.cod
net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine_smil_mms.cod
net_rim_plazmic_themereader.cod
net_rim_theme_precision_zen_360x480_t.cod

Now open your new folder on the desktop and copy all the files in there and paste them in the java folder - they have the same names as the ones you just deleted, but are indeed different files.

NOW, go ahead and open Shrink-A-OS (I assume you know what this is and how to use it?) Select your OS and shrink if you like (I did),

Then, select your device from the drop down menu, then select the .132 radio from the other drop down.

Click "swap radio" button. Shrink will download and install the .132 radio.

Now go ahead and backup your device and apps, wipe your phone, and load the OS as usual! Don't forget to delete the vendor file and do your battery pulls and all that good stuff.

Have fun! Let me know if you have any more questions.

Thanks for the write up im going to give it a try tomorrow. also when i swap out the radio to 132 what should the about screen read. will it say 4.7.0.132 or will it still say 151? And does color banding reoccur when swapping radio?

Great write up Tommy!

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Originally Posted by Italysfinest327

Originally Posted by TommyGrubz

No, you only need one cod file out of .132. The hybrid is installed over .151

Here's what I did:

Download .132 and install to your PC. Go to c/ program files/ common files/ Research in Motion/ Shared/ Loader/ ....132 / Java

In the .132 java folder find net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine_pme12.cod , right click and copy this file, then put it in a new folder on your desktop.

Once you have this file copied, go ahead and delete .132 OS from your computer by going to control panel / addremove and delete it.

Download .151 OS and install to your PC. Find its java folder using the same path as above.

In the .151 java folder copy the following files and paste them in the folder you created with the .132 file in it (the one you just copied and pasted on your desktop):

net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine.cod
net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine_bundle.cod
net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine_pme02.cod
net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine_smil_00.cod
net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine_smil_format.cod
net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine_smil_mms.cod
net_rim_plazmic_themereader.cod
net_rim_theme_precision_zen_360x480_t.cod

Now go ahead and download v8.5 and install over .151 like normal.

Once this is done, go back into the java folder - same path as above - and delete the following files:

net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine_pme12.cod
net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine.cod
net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine_bundle.cod
net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine_pme02.cod
net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine_smil_00.cod
net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine_smil_format.cod
net_rim_plazmic_mediaengine_smil_mms.cod
net_rim_plazmic_themereader.cod
net_rim_theme_precision_zen_360x480_t.cod

Now open your new folder on the desktop and copy all the files in there and paste them in the java folder - they have the same names as the ones you just deleted, but are indeed different files.

NOW, go ahead and open Shrink-A-OS (I assume you know what this is and how to use it?) Select your OS and shrink if you like (I did),

Then, select your device from the drop down menu, then select the .132 radio from the other drop down.

Click "swap radio" button. Shrink will download and install the .132 radio.

Now go ahead and backup your device and apps, wipe your phone, and load the OS as usual! Don't forget to delete the vendor file and do your battery pulls and all that good stuff.

Have fun! Let me know if you have any more questions.

Thanks for the write up im going to give it a try tomorrow. also when i swap out the radio to 132 what should the about screen read. will it say 4.7.0.132 or will it still say 151? And does color banding reoccur when swapping radio?

About screen should say:
V4.7.0.151(platform 4.0.0.162)

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the .162 platform is the 132 radio.

I've honestly never noticed color banding before but that doesn't mean it isn't there.

I'll check back here after work today good luck!

Originally Posted by sandman1987

Great write up Tommy!

Thanks for the kind words everyone! :cool2:

I just finished installing v8.5 and (once again) lost my Ring Tones/Alerts menu. This happened to me on an earlier hybrid and I did a wipe with BBSAK and re-install and the menu came back. This time I started with a wipe, installed 8.5 - no Ring Tones menu. So, this morning I wiped again and re-installed - still no Ring Tones menu. If I can't get it to work, I guess I'll have to go back to 7.0, which is what I was running before. (When I say no menu, I mean it is listed on the Options screen, but when I select that item nothing happens. The other option entries seem to work fine.)

Any ideas (other than wipe and install a third time)? Yes, I did the three 60 second battery pulls after install and BES activation.

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Originally Posted by billr

I just finished installing v8.5 and (once again) lost my Ring Tones/Alerts menu. This happened to me on an earlier hybrid and I did a wipe with BBSAK and re-install and the menu came back. This time I started with a wipe, installed 8.5 - no Ring Tones menu. So, this morning I wiped again and re-installed - still no Ring Tones menu. If I can't get it to work, I guess I'll have to go back to 7.0, which is what I was running before. (When I say no menu, I mean it is listed on the Options screen, but when I select that item nothing happens. The other option entries seem to work fine.)

Any ideas (other than wipe and install a third time)? Yes, I did the three 60 second battery pulls after install and BES activation.

Since this has happened before when installing a different hybrid that leads me to believe something may be wrong with your process. Could you walk us through briefly how you go about installing this?

Originally Posted by billr

I just finished installing v8.5 and (once again) lost my Ring Tones/Alerts menu. This happened to me on an earlier hybrid and I did a wipe with BBSAK and re-install and the menu came back. This time I started with a wipe, installed 8.5 - no Ring Tones menu. So, this morning I wiped again and re-installed - still no Ring Tones menu. If I can't get it to work, I guess I'll have to go back to 7.0, which is what I was running before. (When I say no menu, I mean it is listed on the Options screen, but when I select that item nothing happens. The other option entries seem to work fine.)

Any ideas (other than wipe and install a third time)? Yes, I did the three 60 second battery pulls after install and BES activation.

Bill, is it just from the options menu that you can't access the Ring Tone/Alerts menu? Have you tried accessing it from the Sounds Profile button either on the main screen or from the Applications List page?