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    Quote Originally Posted by jlevy73 View Post
    First off welcome to BBOS!

    Let me modify SMC's statement a bit.

    CDMA uses a system called EVDO which is the equivalent of 3G for GSM users which is HSPA.

    Verizon, which is uses CDMA is launching their equivalent of 4G which is called LTE sometime late 2010 early 2011. Once they turn the switch on you will be able to use with your phone. However by 2011 I suspect you may have another phone which certainly will be compatible with LTE/4G. Hope that helps.
    Thanks for clarifying and valuable info, Josh...nice to know




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    I just want to clarify something:

    LTE - while it is true verizon will be switching to this, it is in fact a GSM band. No CDMA here. CDMA is fundamentally limited in many ways (i.e. voice and data at the same time, at least on verizon) and is going the way of the dodo.

    Also, no, your gen 1 storm will not pick up LTE signal for the same reason a normal EVDO phone won't pick up EVDO rev. A, and an EVDO rev. A phone won't pick EVDO rev. B, etc. Also, it's on a completely different frequency than what any current 3G phone (GSM or CDMA) uses and will require a brand new radio chip than we currently have in our storms. Once LTE is rolled out, you will still pick up EVDO and the other GSM bands the phone supports, though.

    Verizon is not the only carrier that will be rolling out LTE, almost all other carriers have jumped onto the bandwagon. Personally, I think it's about time (almost) every carrier in the world settled on one wireless tech. Now is definitely the time to do it too. Here's to looking forward to broadband speeds on your phone, as well as voice + data at the same time on verizon's stellar network!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollip3020 View Post
    I just want to clarify something:

    LTE - while it is true verizon will be switching to this, it is in fact a GSM band. No CDMA here. CDMA is fundamentally limited in many ways (i.e. voice and data at the same time, at least on verizon) and is going the way of the dodo.

    Also, no, your gen 1 storm will not pick up LTE signal for the same reason a normal EVDO phone won't pick up EVDO rev. A, and an EVDO rev. A phone won't pick EVDO rev. B, etc. Also, it's on a completely different frequency than what any current 3G phone (GSM or CDMA) uses and will require a brand new radio chip than we currently have in our storms. Once LTE is rolled out, you will still pick up EVDO and the other GSM bands the phone supports, though.

    Verizon is not the only carrier that will be rolling out LTE, almost all other carriers have jumped onto the bandwagon. Personally, I think it's about time (almost) every carrier in the world settled on one wireless tech. Now is definitely the time to do it too. Here's to looking forward to broadband speeds on your phone, as well as voice + data at the same time on verizon's stellar network!
    Well said and thanks for correcting and clarifying my statement.

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    verizon is working on 4g also?? i thought spring took control for first dibs on that.?? interesting to read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSmurf View Post
    verizon is working on 4g also?? i thought spring took control for first dibs on that.?? interesting to read.
    Yes they have for quite a while. Sprint is working on something called WiMax but that has not been too successful as of yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlevy73 View Post
    Yes they have for quite a while. Sprint is working on something called WiMax but that has not been too successful as of yet.
    wimax has been in the cook book since i was working there from 07' the signal isnt responding well to the network and its costing a ton to replace their 3g and their data is failing also soo too many things gone wrong with that i wonder if they will ever get that done right... but since the comercials of sprint r promoting 4g.. i never hreally heard the verizon ever say anything about 4 g thats y i was askin.. thx for the heads up tho... and damm that was a fast response hahahahahaha

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    I'd just like to add...

    The Storm 9530 has a Qualcomm MSM7600 chip that supports CDMA EVDO Rev A and UTMS/HSDPA/HSUPA. This means it can support all the major carrier networks.

    Qualcomm has been working on Rev B which increases speeds to 8+MB/s down/up with Rev C going much higher. However, I have yet to see any carrier go for this since they seem to be moving to the next generation 4G network.

    As for 4G, it will take a hardware upgrade to use it. I don't see the Storm 2 or phones released this or next year having it as I'm assuming the phone companies want a chipset that works with backwards compabilities.
    The most advanced chipset Qualcomm has right now is the QSD8672 (HSPA+/EVDO Rev B). I expect the Qualcomm 9xxx will support the LTE networks next year or in 2011.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSmurf View Post
    wimax has been in the cook book since i was working there from 07' the signal isnt responding well to the network and its costing a ton to replace their 3g and their data is failing also soo too many things gone wrong with that i wonder if they will ever get that done right... but since the comercials of sprint r promoting 4g.. i never hreally heard the verizon ever say anything about 4 g thats y i was askin.. thx for the heads up tho... and damm that was a fast response hahahahahaha
    Yeah verzion is going with LTE which is their equivalent of 4G. As Holli explained this will allow Verizon to change from CDMA to GSM. And in the process will probably put qualcomm out of biz

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