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    Thumbs up "Official V6 Final Report" A Detailed Review of BBcrackman's V6"

    "Official V6 Final Report"
    bbcrackman's absolute best release yet! V6 Rocks!


    Implementations, New Features, Positive / Negative Findings, Ongoing / Addressed Issues and Improvements will be addressed in Color Coded Format.


    Blue Text will = Positives, New Features, & Improvements

    Green Text Will = Acutely Noticable Changes

    Red Text will = Negatives & Ongoing Issues.



    "Device Type(s) tested on"
    9530

    "Base Software Version & Platform Utilized"
    4.7.0.148

    "Reason for chosen base version"
    Polls currently show the majority are in favor the 4.7.0.148 platform

    "Hybrid Version Tested (BBCrackman v6 Hybrid vs BBCrackman v6-90"
    Hybrid V6

    "Reason for chosen base version"
    V6 was selected as choice for testing purposes over the V6-90 due to the vast number of issues surrounding the .90 radio.
    Some devices did not perform well on 4.7.0.90 I would not recommend loading this unless you absolutely want to. While some may experience no reboots at all. Others may follow an alternate course of undesirable reboots, system lockup's, and occasional VSOD. It still has the same effect on devices as did straight .90.

    "Allocated Time Tested"
    Testing from day one of general release on a fully charged original battery till end of the battery cycle.

    "Color Saturation"
    Color improvement is definately there and it is noticable. While color banding is still present you cannot see the vast lineage as before between the transitional phases as in previous releases. Color saturation is a Major improvement showing better visibility and better color flow. Images are more Clearer and Brighter. Color depth seems at it's highest that I have seen compared to any other releases yet.

    "Color Banding"
    Still Present
    However:
    Colors are more vivid in detail and crisp in texture. Color banding is hardly noticable. Huge improvement over any other release out.

    "Battery Life"
    Under typical use; making regular calls, watching a movie, listening to music, web, and sms; Battery life has been DRASTICALLY INCREASED. I don't how it was done but the battery in all three units are still running STRONG. Have not had to charge yet. This would be one of the best noticable changes I have seen to date. Everybody needs battery life improvement, and if so then this looks like the one.

    "Lockup's / Freezes / VSOD"
    None! Running strong and smooth

    "Application Intergration"
    ALL of my 3rd Party apps work perfectly. Storm Slider, Quickpull, StopTilt, BofA, File Manager Pro, Forward w/Edit, PDF to Go, Forward w/Edit, Shazam, Kenny Powers, BBOS Launcher, Memory Manager, Battery Booster, Premium Doc to Go, Quicklaunch 1.5 and 2, Visual Voice Mail.

    "Camera and Video"
    Camera Speed has increased noticably. It is faster and works every time. 50 photos taken and no issues. 10 Videos taken and no issues. No reboots on camera usage or video usage. Playback was smooth and transitional.

    "BES"
    I am on BES with my company and it works flawlessly and punctually. Emails come in wuick and decisive as they should. This is how BES should have always been from the begining.

    "Using DM 4.7 and 5.0"
    I can do my back-up's with DM 4.7 and 5.0 with no issues. Tested with two seperate units for more accurate testing.

    "Music Multimedia"
    Played a variety of mp3's and had no problems at all. Music played back flawlessly!

    "Video Multimedia"
    Played several short video clips and 1 movie. Very clear color depth. Color saturation is definately better. Colors are more crisp!

    "Phone Speed"
    Phone speed is much improved. Even with several apps running and several emails going at the same time the phone was extremely fast and responsive. This is a HUGE improvement over the prior releases!

    "Loading from Card"
    All of my pics and vids loaded and were picked up perfectly from my 16 gb card.

    "Typing"
    ABSOLUTELY NO LAG AT ALL!!!!! I sent many SMS and emails and even while browsing the web had no lag on any of the testing phases. This is a MAJOR improvement.

    "Radio"
    ABSOLUTELY NOTICABLE IMPROVEMENT. The radio is the best out yet. I did not experience any lost or dropped calls. Not one Kb of data loss. Sound is MUCH clearer and louder. HOLDING STRONG at 4-5 bars all day long. I usually only get 3-4 bars at the same exact locations but not now. Just for this alone I will never change!

    "Accelerometer"
    CRAZY FAST! Ok seriously, this is the fastest one out yet. NO Lag! changes when it should and not when you would least expect it to.

    "Visual Voice Mail"
    Well if you use it, it does work perfectly.

    "Browser Speed"
    Dont even ask... It's LIGHTNING FAST. Don't let others tell you how fast their browsers are. This one will pass it by far. The fastest browser compared to others. Loaeds .096 seconds faster. Now dont say that .096 is not a long time cause when you are sitting at that redlight for only 1 minute waiting for the light to change that one minute seems like 5. YES it is MUCH FASTER!!!!!

    "Memory"
    54MB at start up vs 51MB before. Now keep in mind, this is BEFORE I loaded all of my third apps. With all of the apps listed above running I am holding strong at 43MB. No Loss So Far.

    "Battery Pulls"
    Do 3 battery pulls on set up of new hybris 60 seconds apart as instructed. how many battery pulls have I had so far now: 0. That's right, 0 battery pulls to date.

    "QuickPull"
    Works Perfectly!!!

    "The Final Analysis"

    This is absolutely the best built hybrid to date. It is not just my opinion but the results show it. Tested on three storms and all three running strong. bbcrackman's V6 needs no improvement as he has passed the bar of our expectations and led by example. While again I would highly remind you not use the .90 radio unless you are just looking for completely getting rid of the color banding. This V6 does not needs too much more in my opinion. Color, Video, Radio, Speed, Browsing.... It's All There.

    All I can say is a BIG Thanks to bbcrackman for this build and thanks to the BBOS team for having it here FIRST!!!!!!



    The.Perfect.Storm




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    Good post Storm. Very informative.
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    Awesome post Storm! Thanks for giving the time and sharing!

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    I believe this deserves a sticky

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    Thumbs up Thanks!

    I just wanted to help everyone out with some detail info!
    Tested on several storms and tested accurately under controlled conditions.
    More final reports to come with BBCrackman's releases.

    It's going to be hard to top this hybrid release though. BBCrackman has done a MIRACLE with this hybrid! This is the absolute best one that I have seen.

    My hands of appreciation go out to BBCrackman and the BBOS staff. :arms:

    Thank You for everything!

    The.Perfect.Storm

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    Thumbs up BBOS Rocks!

    Quote Originally Posted by olta777 View Post
    I believe this deserves a sticky
    THANK YOU olta777! :arms:

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    STORM,
    Great Info! Thanks for taking the time. I'm wondering ...since you've got three Storms, have you ever entertained the idea of testing different OS side by side at the same time? I ran a similar test of .148 straight(shrunk) and had similar results as you report (but I ran for 72 hours). http://www.blackberryos.com/forums/9...html#post31051
    Did you try the Bluetooth? Any problems?
    Thanks again...great job!
    Last edited by toytooii; 05-28-2009 at 09:11 PM.

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    @ toytooii on bluetooth question...

    Quote Originally Posted by toytooii View Post
    STORM,
    Great Info! Thanks for taking the time. I'm wondering ...since you've got three Storms, have you ever entertained the idea of testing different OS side by side at the same time? I ran a similar test of .148 straight(shrunk) and had similar results as you report (but I ran for 72 hours). http://www.blackberryos.com/forums/9...html#post31051
    Did you try the Bluetooth? Any problems?
    Thanks again...great job!
    Thanks! No problem's with the bluetooth so far. On one of the units I accidentally forgot to do the three battery pulls. At first I didn't think that this woulds make a difference but when I engaged bluetooth to my vehicle on that same unit I experienced low volume. I immediately went back and wiped, reloaded, and tried on that one unit again and guess what... Perfect Volume.
    Didn't know that not doing the 3 batt pulls on just that one unit would have made that happen. so I retested with two pulls again prior to a wipe and reload and I was able to recreate the same problem. Don't know if it is a bug or what. But what I do know for sure is it is very important to do the 3 battery pulls 60 seconds apart.
    Hope this helps!

    The.Perfect.Storm

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    Quote Originally Posted by The.Perfect.Storm View Post
    Thanks! No problem's with the bluetooth so far. On one of the units I accidentally forgot to do the three battery pulls. At first I didn't think that this woulds make a difference but when I engaged bluetooth to my vehicle on that same unit I experienced low volume. I immediately went back and wiped, reloaded, and tried on that one unit again and guess what... Perfect Volume.
    Didn't know that not doing the 3 batt pulls on just that one unit would have made that happen. so I retested with two pulls again prior to a wipe and reload and I was able to recreate the same problem. Don't know if it is a bug or what. But what I do know for sure is it is very important to do the 3 battery pulls 60 seconds apart.
    Hope this helps!

    The.Perfect.Storm
    Nice...like the way you confirmed that. Did you try only two pulls on one of the other units or the same one that originally had the problem? Some users do in fact have Bluetooth issues on straight .141 and .148...but all indications (so far) is that it appears to be a radio issue and not a .cod issue. It's really weird and seems to be adding some credence that all Storms are not the same. .141. and .148 have worked flawlessly on my device, as did .132.
    Last edited by toytooii; 05-28-2009 at 09:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toytooii View Post
    Nice...like the way you confirmed that. Did you try only two pulls on one of the other units or the same one that originally had the problem? Some users do in fact have Bluetooth issues on straight .141 and .148...but all indications (so far) is that it appears to be a radio issue and not a .cod issue. It's really weird and seems to be adding some credence that all Storms are not the same. .141. and .148 have worked flawlessly on my device, as did .132.
    I actually have five units, of which 3 were used decisively for testing this hybrid. So I grabbed another unit so I wouldn't jepoardize the testing, and wiped, reloaded and pulled only twice. Same effect. Wiped, reloaded, and pulled three times and perfect. Weird isn't it. I would have to lean more towards the radio issue myself, but just don't know for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The.Perfect.Storm View Post
    I actually have five units, of which 3 were used decisively for testing this hybrid. So I grabbed another unit so I wouldn't jepoardize the testing, and wiped, reloaded and pulled only twice. Same effect. Wiped, reloaded, and pulled three times and perfect. Weird isn't it. I would have to lean more towards the radio issue myself, but just don't know for sure.
    Very Nice! Yup, seems like the OS doesn't totally load up on the device for a period of time (and DOES require several battery pulls)which is why many of the reports issued about problems immediately after installation can actually be incorrect. Once again, nice job and thanks!

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    Excellent post. Thanks for sharing that with everyone. Look forward to seeing you in the forums.

    Quote Originally Posted by The.Perfect.Storm View Post
    "Official V6 Final Report"
    bbcrackman's absolute best release yet! V6 Rocks!


    Implementations, New Features, Positive / Negative Findings, Ongoing / Addressed Issues and Improvements will be addressed in Color Coded Format.


    Blue Text will = Positives, New Features, & Improvements

    Green Text Will = Acutely Noticable Changes

    Red Text will = Negatives & Ongoing Issues.



    "Device Type(s) tested on"
    9530

    "Base Software Version & Platform Utilized"
    4.7.0.148

    "Reason for chosen base version"
    Polls currently show the majority are in favor the 4.7.0.148 platform

    "Hybrid Version Tested (BBCrackman v6 Hybrid vs BBCrackman v6-90"
    Hybrid V6

    "Reason for chosen base version"
    V6 was selected as choice for testing purposes over the V6-90 due to the vast number of issues surrounding the .90 radio.
    Some devices did not perform well on 4.7.0.90 I would not recommend loading this unless you absolutely want to. While some may experience no reboots at all. Others may follow an alternate course of undesirable reboots, system lockup's, and occasional VSOD. It still has the same effect on devices as did straight .90.

    "Allocated Time Tested"
    Testing from day one of general release on a fully charged original battery till end of the battery cycle.

    "Color Saturation"
    Color improvement is definately there and it is noticable. While color banding is still present you cannot see the vast lineage as before between the transitional phases as in previous releases. Color saturation is a Major improvement showing better visibility and better color flow. Images are more Clearer and Brighter. Color depth seems at it's highest that I have seen compared to any other releases yet.

    "Color Banding"
    Still Present
    However:
    Colors are more vivid in detail and crisp in texture. Color banding is hardly noticable. Huge improvement over any other release out.

    "Battery Life"
    Under typical use; making regular calls, watching a movie, listening to music, web, and sms; Battery life has been DRASTICALLY INCREASED. I don't how it was done but the battery in all three units are still running STRONG. Have not had to charge yet. This would be one of the best noticable changes I have seen to date. Everybody needs battery life improvement, and if so then this looks like the one.

    "Lockup's / Freezes / VSOD"
    None! Running strong and smooth

    "Application Intergration"
    ALL of my 3rd Party apps work perfectly. Storm Slider, Quickpull, StopTilt, BofA, File Manager Pro, Forward w/Edit, PDF to Go, Forward w/Edit, Shazam, Kenny Powers, BBOS Launcher, Memory Manager, Battery Booster, Premium Doc to Go, Quicklaunch 1.5 and 2, Visual Voice Mail.

    "Camera and Video"
    Camera Speed has increased noticably. It is faster and works every time. 50 photos taken and no issues. 10 Videos taken and no issues. No reboots on camera usage or video usage. Playback was smooth and transitional.

    "BES"
    I am on BES with my company and it works flawlessly and punctually. Emails come in wuick and decisive as they should. This is how BES should have always been from the begining.

    "Using DM 4.7 and 5.0"
    I can do my back-up's with DM 4.7 and 5.0 with no issues. Tested with two seperate units for more accurate testing.

    "Music Multimedia"
    Played a variety of mp3's and had no problems at all. Music played back flawlessly!

    "Video Multimedia"
    Played several short video clips and 1 movie. Very clear color depth. Color saturation is definately better. Colors are more crisp!

    "Phone Speed"
    Phone speed is much improved. Even with several apps running and several emails going at the same time the phone was extremely fast and responsive. This is a HUGE improvement over the prior releases!

    "Loading from Card"
    All of my pics and vids loaded and were picked up perfectly from my 16 gb card.

    "Typing"
    ABSOLUTELY NO LAG AT ALL!!!!! I sent many SMS and emails and even while browsing the web had no lag on any of the testing phases. This is a MAJOR improvement.

    "Radio"
    ABSOLUTELY NOTICABLE IMPROVEMENT. The radio is the best out yet. I did not experience any lost or dropped calls. Not one Kb of data loss. Sound is MUCH clearer and louder. HOLDING STRONG at 4-5 bars all day long. I usually only get 3-4 bars at the same exact locations but not now. Just for this alone I will never change!

    "Accelerometer"
    CRAZY FAST! Ok seriously, this is the fastest one out yet. NO Lag! changes when it should and not when you would least expect it to.

    "Visual Voice Mail"
    Well if you use it, it does work perfectly.

    "Browser Speed"
    Dont even ask... It's LIGHTNING FAST. Don't let others tell you how fast their browsers are. This one will pass it by far. The fastest browser compared to others. Loaeds .096 seconds faster. Now dont say that .096 is not a long time cause when you are sitting at that redlight for only 1 minute waiting for the light to change that one minute seems like 5. YES it is MUCH FASTER!!!!!

    "Memory"
    54MB at start up vs 51MB before. Now keep in mind, this is BEFORE I loaded all of my third apps. With all of the apps listed above running I am holding strong at 43MB. No Loss So Far.

    "Battery Pulls"
    Do 3 battery pulls on set up of new hybris 60 seconds apart as instructed. how many battery pulls have I had so far now: 0. That's right, 0 battery pulls to date.

    "QuickPull"
    Works Perfectly!!!

    "The Final Analysis"

    This is absolutely the best built hybrid to date. It is not just my opinion but the results show it. Tested on three storms and all three running strong. bbcrackman's V6 needs no improvement as he has passed the bar of our expectations and led by example. While again I would highly remind you not use the .90 radio unless you are just looking for completely getting rid of the color banding. This V6 does not needs too much more in my opinion. Color, Video, Radio, Speed, Browsing.... It's All There.

    All I can say is a BIG Thanks to bbcrackman for this build and thanks to the BBOS team for having it here FIRST!!!!!!



    The.Perfect.Storm

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    Read it all, and I agree with it all. Thanks for taking the time to give a very detailed report.

    Very nicely done !!

    +1

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    Wow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The.Perfect.Storm View Post
    I actually have five units, of which 3 were used decisively for testing this hybrid. So I grabbed another unit so I wouldn't jepoardize the testing, and wiped, reloaded and pulled only twice. Same effect. Wiped, reloaded, and pulled three times and perfect. Weird isn't it. I would have to lean more towards the radio issue myself, but just don't know for sure.
    You beat me I only have two units one for testing and one for daily use. I am one of those afflicted with the BT problem on any SFI in the 140's. After intensely scrutinizing the issue (including the use of a current RIM employee as a guinea pig) we determined that it is the radio and not any of the cod files to blame. It's bizarre but not all people are having this issue. So my conclusion is a frightening one, not all Storms are manufactured the same. NO wonder vzw cannot approve an OS. You got 50 testers getting 50 different results

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    I have a problem with "media card inserted" have to pull battery 3 to 4 times before it goes away

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlevy73 View Post
    You beat me I only have two units one for testing and one for daily use. I am one of those afflicted with the BT problem on any SFI in the 140's. After intensely scrutinizing the issue (including the use of a current RIM employee as a guinea pig) we determined that it is the radio and not any of the cod files to blame. It's bizarre but not all people are having this issue. So my conclusion is a frightening one, not all Storms are manufactured the same. NO wonder vzw cannot approve an OS. You got 50 testers getting 50 different results
    +1
    I agree completely.
    I know. It's weird how one person may experience this and one may not.

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    Battery Pulls

    [QUOTE=The.Perfect.Storm;33394]"Official V6 Final Report"
    bbcrackman's absolute best release yet! V6 Rocks!


    "Battery Pulls"
    Do 3 battery pulls on set up of new hybris 60 seconds apart as instructed. how many battery pulls have I had so far now: 0. That's right, 0 battery pulls to date.



    Thanks for the great report. I agree that this is the best hybrid yet. My thanks to BBcrackman!

    The whole "3 battery pulls" issue still gets me. I originally thought that a battery pull was to have the battery out for 60 seconds. If we are to pull and then reinsert and then re-pull at 60 seconds - the device would not be fully booted - correct? Can you explain the procedure more completely?

    Thanks for your time.

    Regards,
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    He means pull the battery out and leave it out for 60 sec. Then reinstall and after full boot up, pull the battery again for 60 sec and repeat 3 times. You must wait until the phone boots completely up before pulling the battery again.

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    Wirelessly posted

    Quote Originally Posted by loboboy
    He means pull the battery out and leave it out for 60 sec. Then reinstall and after full boot up, pull the battery again for 60 sec and repeat 3 times. You must wait until the phone boots completely up before pulling the battery again.
    Thanks for explaining. I didn't have a chance to reply yet.
    That's correct about doing the 3 battery pulls. It is very important that 3 pulls are done @ 60 seconds apart.
    Thanks!

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